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Turgeon's Statement on Sam Cassell Jr.

  • “We’ve exhausted every option and made our best effort. I’m very pleased with the work that our compliance staff put in on Sam’s behalf. Obviously, we’re very disappointed that he will be unable to attend the University of Maryland at this time and be a part of our basketball program. We will continue to support Sam and his family in any way that we can as they determine their next steps.”

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  • Classy statement by Turge. I would love to hear what hes saying behind closed doors. He really must hate having to bite his tongue but really has to at this point with Dez's appeal going through the NCAA right now.

    Why always Boris?

    Besus

  • % chances this helps us with Wells appeal given its such a late in the game decision etc? We are 4 weeks from official practice and losing a guard that was likely to contribute.

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  • The NCAA is an old whore tarting itself up in front of the mirror: "How do I look?" There's no reason they couldn't have grandfathered Sam in. The students involved had no idea Notre Dame's core courses weren't legit. Just a terrible decision.

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  • terrapinsane said...

    The NCAA is an old whore tarting itself up in front of the mirror: "How do I look?" There's no reason they couldn't have grandfathered Sam in. The students involved had no idea Notre Dame's core courses weren't legit. Just a terrible decision.

    The school has 40 students total in 6 grades, and most of those students are division I caliber basketball players. I don't think it takes much thought to realize the mission of the school isn't academics.

    Tabe

  • rube6400 said...

    % chances this helps us with Wells appeal given its such a late in the game decision etc? We are 4 weeks from official practice and losing a guard that was likely to contribute.

    0%. It's not like he was getting credits for classes that don't exist.

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  • Tabe said...

    The school has 40 students total in 6 grades, and most of those students are division I caliber basketball players. I don't think it takes much thought to realize the mission of the school isn't academics.

    Honestly though, isn't the NCAA an organization that ON PRINCIPLE should be the epitome of transparency, due process, fairness, and an orientation towards the welfare of the student? They represent the US university system for godsakes!

    Can't some ethics professor at a member university explain to these guys that a fair process involves enforcing rule changes in a manner that allows innocent people to comply? In other words, informing people prospectively that classes at so-and-so prep school will no longer be accepted, rather than retroactively?

    Hard not to rant about this, though I know most of this board is on the same page. It just boggles the mind.

    Brooklyn D

  • Brooklyn D said...

    Honestly though, isn't the NCAA an organization that ON PRINCIPLE should be the epitome of transparency, due process, fairness, and an orientation towards the welfare of the student? They represent the US university system for godsakes!

    Can't some ethics professor at a member university explain to these guys that a fair process involves enforcing rule changes in a manner that allows innocent people to comply? In other words, informing people prospectively that classes at so-and-so prep school will no longer be accepted, rather than retroactively?

    Hard not to rant about this, though I know most of this board is on the same page. It just boggles the mind.

    If the NCAA did that, no one would ever be punished. They would put Notre Dame Prep on their banned list, the school would fold, and some other group (surely with some of the same cast of characters) would fill the vacuum and start Southern Massachusetts Christian Academy which has the same lax academic "standards" and serves mainly as a vehicle for the basketball program to exist.

    That being said, I'm very ready to slam the NCAA for coming down on Sam and the other kid from Xavier and not all ten. I honestly don't understand that, and I'm sure the reasoning is arbitrary.

    Tabe

  • Tabe said...

    If the NCAA did that, no one would ever be punished. They would put Notre Dame Prep on their banned list, the school would fold, and some other group (surely with some of the same cast of characters) would fill the vacuum and start Southern Massachusetts Christian Academy which has the same lax academic "standards" and serves mainly as a vehicle for the basketball program to exist.

    That being said, I'm very ready to slam the NCAA for coming down on Sam and the other kid from Xavier and not all ten. I honestly don't understand that, and I'm sure the reasoning is arbitrary.

    I see your point, but on the other hand, the goal isn't to punish, it is to get rid of diploma mills. The best result is if no one ever NEEDS to be punished.

    Why not set up a system where high schools are certified by the NCAA ahead of time? If your hypothetical SMCA wants to put athletes into NCAA competitions, they need to get certified FIRST. If the NCAA can review their academic chops after the fact, why not before? It just seems very clear that a system like that is far less likely to have collateral damage like Sam Cassell Jr.

    Brooklyn D

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