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Turge Knows Best? Gibbs to Transfer...

  • Do we have another definite stud pg coming in this year that I don't know about?

    Teraskins

  • Well Pe'Shon is better than him already.

    With the 2013 and 2014 names being mentioned, you want to tie up a scholarship until 2015 with a subpar PG. Got it.

    hgoodman ●

  • Teraskins said...

    Do we have another definite stud pg coming in this year that I don't know about?

    No, but Gibbs didn't show that he could play the point any better than Allen and probably worse than Howard. Having three mediocre-or-worse PG's doesn't make us a better team than having two of them.

    He would have improved the team last year just because having one mediocre-or-worse PG does make us a better team than having none of them.

    MisterSmiley ●

  • Faust was forced to play point because we didn't have another pg, we didn't have another pg because Turge had no interest in retaining Gibbs. Yes this does give Faust a good reason for the bad A/TO ratio, but it doesn't give Turge a pass for not retaining a backup pg on the roster. I don't have to agree with everything Turge does just because he is our coach. I remember the outlook on Gibbs being a lot different when we initially acquired him.

    Teraskins

  • Teraskins said...

    Faust was forced to play point because we didn't have another pg, we didn't have another pg because Turge had no interest in retaining Gibbs. Yes this does give Faust a good reason for the bad A/TO ratio, but it doesn't give Turge a pass for not retaining a backup pg on the roster. I don't have to agree with everything Turge does just because he is our coach. I remember the outlook on Gibbs being a lot different when we initially acquired him.

    Why waste a scholarship on a kid that you have no use for after his first year?

    lazy

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    Devils0720 ●

  • OK, so when we can't find a stud at a certain position the plan is to play someone out of their position, not use the scholly, and wait until we find a stud.

    Teraskins

  • Teraskins said...

    Faust was forced to play point because we didn't have another pg, we didn't have another pg because Turge had no interest in retaining Gibbs. Yes this does give Faust a good reason for the bad A/TO ratio, but it doesn't give Turge a pass for not retaining a backup pg on the roster. I don't have to agree with everything Turge does just because he is our coach. I remember the outlook on Gibbs being a lot different when we initially acquired him.

    Your stupid premise is based on the idea that a backup PG was the only thing holding the team back, completing ignoring the worst front court in the last 20 years. But yeah, Gibbs would have fixed all that.

    This post was edited by hgoodman on 4/12/2012 at 10:05 AM

    hgoodman ●

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    Devils0720 ●

  • My thought process is Gibbs was a solid player and we needed a pg, we should of retained him to start developing him versus jonathan Thomas. Experience is underrated on this board.

    Teraskins

  • Teraskins said...

    Faust was forced to play point because we didn't have another pg, we didn't have another pg because Turge had no interest in retaining Gibbs. Yes this does give Faust a good reason for the bad A/TO ratio, but it doesn't give Turge a pass for not retaining a backup pg on the roster. I don't have to agree with everything Turge does just because he is our coach. I remember the outlook on Gibbs being a lot different when we initially acquired him.

    I liked the Gibbs signing quite a bit, but characterizing him as a PG is incorrect. He's basically an undersized shooting guard more than a point guard. The only person who thinks he's a point guard is him. He's not, he's a combo guard.

    We could have definitely used another ballhandler/passer/scorer last season, but let's not make this out to be some kind of season-changing mistake and he probably doesn't get any PT next season unless Howard and/or Allen are injured again for significant stretches.

    MisterSmiley ●

  • Please show me where I said this was a season changing mistake. I just think it would of been a better roster decision to retain him, that's it.

    Teraskins

  • We were excited about Gibbs because of his last name and because everyone was conditioned to Gary recruiting expectations. He played very little on a team with J'covan Brown and a turd sandwich at PG (yes Myck Kabongo is a turd). He would have done nothing for us this year or next year.

    strza12 ●

  • Teraskins said...

    My thought process is Gibbs was a solid player and we needed a pg, we should of retained him to start developing him versus jonathan Thomas. Experience is underrated on this board.

    What experience?

    An "experienced" Gibbs who might be able to contribute to an ACC-level team is maybe a junior or senior Gibbs.
    But our guards are/will be better than him.

    This post was edited by flexoffense4U on 4/12/2012 at 10:32 AM

    flexoffense4U

  • OK well an experienced jr/sr Gibbs that can contribute is good with me. Would you rather not have Padge on this team next year?

    Teraskins

  • Teraskins said...

    OK well an experienced jr/sr Gibbs that can contribute is good with me. Would you rather not have Padge on this team next year?

    Padgett was our best big last year. Sterling Gibbs would never be our best guard or even in the top 3-4.

    Devils0720 ●

  • I really think Coash Turgeon felt like he had 2 really good PG's on the roster in Stoglin and Howard. I'm sure he was confident that he could coach/teach TS to play the point and develope more of a pass first mind set. That obviously didn't happen.

    I would not be surprised if the two don't give that experiment another shot this year. This time, assuming Terrell is not a complete blockhead, we just might see at the point a lot and showing the NBA scouts that he's capable of running the Offense and being a facilitator as well as a scorer. He has to know now that it's his only shot at playing in the league.

    ZZ Terp

  • Did you also predict Padge would eventually be our best big when we picked him up 3 years ago?

    This post was edited by Teraskins on 4/12/2012 at 10:57 AM

    Teraskins

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    Devils0720 ●

  • Teraskins said...

    Did you also predict Padge would eventually be our best big when we picked him up 3 years ago?

    He was by default. He's not a starter on a Top 25 team. Neither is Gibbs.

    hgoodman ●

  • WMTerp12 said...

    lol holy shit, you can't use percentages when the guy averaged 2 shots a game, many of them at the end of blowouts.

    I couldn't agree more. He made more than two baskets from the field twice since the new year. If you take away a combined 8-8 from the field and 6-6 from three point range in two games in December against Nicholls St. and Rice his numbers drop very dramatically. The Nicholls St. game was a 53 point victory for Texas and everybody knows that even marginal college players can put up impressive stats in a game like that..

    bristoldog

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    02terp ●

  • Teraskins said...

    Did you also predict Padge would eventually be our best big when we picked him up 3 years ago?

    Padge being our best big was a symptom of the bad front court play we had all season. I wouldn't use it as an example of how we should recruit going forward.

    blindgaryhomer

  • A couple of thoughts:

    - I've learned my lesson on labeling freshmen "turds" because they didnt play much. Lots of really good players dont play much as freshmen. I wouldn't be so quick to trash Gibbs as worthless. Obv, it didnt work out at Texas for a variety of reasons, but this kid was a top 100 recruit just a year ago and I would bet that he lands somewhere with available minutes and turns into a good contributor.

    - I think its pretty clear that we would have had a better season last year (not sure how much better, but you know, better) with freshman Gibbs getting minutes over the walk ons and I think we would have a better season next year with sophomore Gibbs getting minutes over freshman Allen. And I suspect that most here agree. Having said that, I think its difficult to really kill Turge over "losing" Gibbs. I assume that Turge thought we would be cool at the point with Stogs and Pe. He clearly liked Allen better than Gibbs long term so he decided to prioritize bringing in his guy Allen vs. keeping Gibbs in the fold. Obv this decision hurt us last year because Pe got injured, but its tough to blame Turge for not being able to anticipate an injury. As to whether Allen or Gibbs will end up the better player, time will tell.

    1thegame

  • TortugaGrande said...

    Double 'could of' means you lose.

    Not shocking that the "Gibz iz da bestest!!!" crowd are "could of" users, too.

    I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

    Omar Little ●

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