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Orioles vs. Athletics series thread

  • charmcity3131 said...

    I would highly caution against making any decisions based off of a three-game series. Buyers or not, we should already know what we are at this point.

    Smartest thing you have ever said

    redraven1

  • Are you allowed to buy more than 1 student ticket?

    RealityGlitch ●

  • I mostly agree, just saying that if the Os lose the first two games to fall to about 4th or 5th in the WC race it is going to have an effect. Duke has said repeatedly that if they are IN IT, they are IN IT TO WIN IT. Well, what does "in it" mean?

    3 games with 60 left is 5% of the remaining season and against a team ahead of you in the standings ...

    BCiB ●

  • RealityGlitch said...

    Are you allowed to buy more than 1 student ticket?

    Never had a problem with one guy buying like eight in the past

    "WE WANT MORE WE WANT MORE girl is providing the rallying cry for the 2013 O's." ~dh2k3

    JDawgBBall9 ●

  • fearthenoodle said...

    Mark Reynolds is the youngest corner IF who will be a FA in baseball after the season.

    fingergun

    It's actually Loney, I think. Not that he's any better.

    That's why guys like Fielder and Teixaira get those huge deals. Being a free agent at under 29 means that you are a super stud that came up early and you have a lot more prime seasons left.

    PoorMike

  • fearthenoodle said...

    If Minnesota eats some salary, what are the thoughts on Justin Morneau? .926 OPS vs. RHP. Platoon with Reynolds at 1B?

    I would think that would take a lot of AB's from Reynolds, since you're generally going to see more RHP than LHP. Which probably isn't a bad thing.

    joebookman ●

  • joebookman said...

    I would think that would take a lot of AB's from Reynolds, since you're generally going to see more RHP than LHP. Which probably isn't a bad thing.

    Yep. Reynolds is crushing lefties at a decent clip and Morneau is doing the same to righties.

    If you could trade for a guy like Headley, then you don't need Morneau and you can just make Betemit/Reynolds your platoon at 1B.

    fearthenoodle ●

  • fearthenoodle said...

    If Minnesota eats some salary, what are the thoughts on Justin Morneau? .926 OPS vs. RHP. Platoon with Reynolds at 1B?

    So, straight up for Arrieta?

    What kind of deal are you thinking of?

    PoorMike

  • PoorMike said...

    So, straight up for Arrieta?

    What kind of deal are you thinking of?

    To get Arrieta, Minny would need to eat virtually all of the contract. I don't know what they want in return (hitters vs. pitchers), but barring Minny eating 75% or more of the contract, I wouldn't part with any of the cavalry or Schoop. I wouldn't deal Schoop for Morneau alone regardless of how much contract they eat.

    Someone on the next rung would be as far as I'd go. I'd do Avery for Morneau straight up with Minny paying half the salary in 2013.

    This post was edited by fearthenoodle on 7/27/2012 at 10:25 AM

    fearthenoodle ●

  • Since when is Strop "nothing"? I like him a lot but he's been one of the best relievers in baseball and his value will never be higher. I think you can something good back in return for him. Always a fan of selling high on relievers.

    AlphaOmega said... im sorry i was confusing...your "Superbowl" was the Redskins losing since you know that the Ravens cant win it all.

    TheHugeManatee

  • TheHugeManatee said...

    Since when is Strop "nothing"? I like him a lot but he's been one of the best relievers in baseball and his value will never be higher. I think you can something good back in return for him. Always a fan of selling high on relievers.

    I am, too. I'd need to see what we'd be getting before I'd trade him in season right now, though. He's been more dependable than anyone but Johnson. For instance, I wouldn't trade him straight up for Victorino (Philly wants a middle reliever for Victorino).

    But I'd include him in a deal for Headley.

    fearthenoodle ●

  • Pedro Strop and Jim Johnson should be prime candidates for a trade. Both are pitching way over their heads, especially Strop.

    redraven1

  • There's definitely a market for lights out relievers. I just wouldn't be on the buy side.

    AlphaOmega said... im sorry i was confusing...your "Superbowl" was the Redskins losing since you know that the Ravens cant win it all.

    TheHugeManatee

  • Victorino has been worth three times more than Strop.

    This post was edited by redraven1 on 7/27/2012 at 10:32 AM

    redraven1

  • I wouldn't trade JJ unless I was blown away. He's pretty popular here, good, cheap, and starting is a possibility.

    AlphaOmega said... im sorry i was confusing...your "Superbowl" was the Redskins losing since you know that the Ravens cant win it all.

    TheHugeManatee

  • BCiB said...

    I mostly agree, just saying that if the Os lose the first two games to fall to about 4th or 5th in the WC race it is going to have an effect. Duke has said repeatedly that if they are IN IT, they are IN IT TO WIN IT. Well, what does "in it" mean?

    3 games with 60 left is 5% of the remaining season and against a team ahead of you in the standings ...

    Shouldn't matter. If we're parting with anyone significant it should be a long term solution (Garza, Headley, etc) or if it's a rental than we should be just parting with filler.

    jsh ●

  • WAR is a shit stat for pitchers like strop and johnson

    This post was edited by TheHugeManatee on 7/27/2012 at 10:35 AM

    AlphaOmega said... im sorry i was confusing...your "Superbowl" was the Redskins losing since you know that the Ravens cant win it all.

    TheHugeManatee

  • TheHugeManatee said...

    I wouldn't trade JJ unless I was blown away. He's pretty popular here, good, cheap, and starting is a possibility.

    Trading JJ right now would be a pr nightmare. I'd be open to trading Johnson or Strop in the offseason, Strop would probably bring back more.

    jsh ●

  • If you're trading either Strop or Johnson in season (this season) you better get guys that contribute NOW or you're going to take a brutal PR hit. The phrase "throwing in the towel" will be ringing in everyone's ears.

    joebookman ●

  • Oh here we go again. The stats say opposite of what Im saying therefore the stats are wrong.

    This post was edited by redraven1 on 7/27/2012 at 10:37 AM

    redraven1

  • jsh said...

    Shouldn't matter. If we're parting with anyone significant it should be a long term solution (Garza, Headley, etc) or if it's a rental than we should be just parting with filler.

    Yeah, I agree with this, don't just give people away. I think DD has done a good job so far and thinks similar but time will tell since the clock is ticking...

    terphoopfanhook

  • redraven1 said...

    Oh here we go again. The stats say opposite of what Im saying therefore the stats are wrong.

    Playattachment

    jsh ●

  • Johnson hasnt even been our second most valuable reliever. Trading him for a guy like Victorino would be a steal (depending on the contracts which I am not sure of either ones)

    This post was edited by redraven1 on 7/27/2012 at 10:39 AM

    redraven1

  • redraven1 said...

    Johnson hasnt even been our second most valuable reliever. Trading him for a guy like Victorino would be a steal (depending on the contracts which I am not sure of either ones)

    Trading Johnson for Victorino would be a terrible trade*.

    *Factoring in the contracts

    This post was edited by jsh on 7/27/2012 at 10:41 AM

    jsh ●

  • redraven1 said...

    Oh here we go again. The stats say opposite of what Im saying therefore the stats are wrong.

    i don't know what you want me to say other than you are a dumbass. it is a fact that WAR does not appreciate ground ball pitchers' performance. fWAR for pitchers is solely based on strikeouts, walks, and home runs.

    AlphaOmega said... im sorry i was confusing...your "Superbowl" was the Redskins losing since you know that the Ravens cant win it all.

    TheHugeManatee

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