General Sports Water Cooler

co-signed. get points.

I'm on board w/the Caldwell hiring, if it goes through. I'll be interested to see how the relationship between him and CC goes, since that's been an issue before (at least w/Zorn).

And obviously, working w/PM for a decade is a huge plus, but then I also wonder how big a role he played in that, i.e. was it mostly him, or PM himself, or Tom Moore, or some combo of the three.

At any rate, I just hope he comes in and helps to bring out the best in Joe.

This thread really went somewhere I didn't expect.

We are just like the Philadelphia Eagles of the early 2000's. Very good, not good enough. I don't know how anyone can say John Harbaugh has been more successful than Brian Billick at this point. The goal is to win a Super Bowl. You don't get trophies for trips to the AFC championship game. When Harbaugh wins a Super Bowl, you can then have this debate. Harbaugh is closer to being infamous for his team's playoff chokes than famous for his team's playoff success.

IT all stemmed from a comment that Billicks Superbowl was not important when evaluating who was a better coach because Harbaugh makes the playoffs every year and billick was sporadic. So it was a hypothetical question based off of that.

The team in general, and the offense in particular, had the look of being on the ropes for much of the 1st quarter. The running game had not gotten going and we all remember how they got stuffed on the goal line the prior week on 4th down. I had no problem taking the 3 there, getting on the board, and basically settling everything down a little.

no one mentioning the Human Blinking Statue coming to Baltimore?

Yup, it's Flacco's fault Evans didn't hold onto the perfectly thrown pass for a split second longer. Seriously dude, can you give the Flacco BS a fucking rest for at least the offseason?

Oh, I get it...It's Harbaugh's fault that Evans dropped that pass then.

I was posting in response to Charmcity who seems discontent with harbaugh's coaching since we haven't been to a Superbowl when in reality the comparison should be between McNabb and Flacco IMO.

Definitely, and you can definitely determine fan intelligence when it comes to bitching about the HC/QB. It's lowest common denominator stuff.

Every fan base does this, but why can't it be more than one person's fault? Flacco wasn't perfect, Harbaugh wasn't perfect, Cundiff (obviously) wasn't perfect, Evans wasn't perfect, the O-line wasn't perfect, etc.

In a game where so many little things could have happened differently to affect the outcome, why try so hard to pin it on one person?

Because ravensnterps is a well established moron in particular when it comes to Flacco.

In a game that close there were probably 25 plays that could have turned out ever so slightly different that would have changed the outcome. It is what it is.

I didn't even see the game much less comment on it. I wasn't talking about the game. I was talking about the stupid notion that our ceiling is somehow the Eagles and that it's the fault of Harbaugh and that we should thusly fire him. If Harbaug his Reid than Flacco is McNabb. It's silly to think that either coaching combination doesn't have the ability to coach a Superbowl team.

It's really Randy Edsall's fault, anyway.