General Sports Water Cooler

Wow, shots fired! I thought Harbaugh and Belichick were buddies. Guess that's probably over. Good, eff the Patriots.

Ravens had an ok draft. It was clear this was just one of those years where we didn't get too lucky with certain players falling to us that we liked. I like the Upshaw pick and that worked out for us, but the second round tackle/guard has me concerned. I like the kid out of Delaware and I'm a huge fan of Pierce. Other than that, nothing to write home about.

The Ravens only have themselves to blame for Cundiff's miss last year. They gave the dude a big contract for one really good year out of an otherwise journeyman type of career. He wasn't kicking balls nearly as far on kickoffs last year and was obviously really inaccurate from long distance. Injury played a role, but it should have been obvious to the Ravens late in the year that they should have rolled with Graham instead of Cundiff.

absolutely - see Cameron, Cam and Rosburg

how many super bowls did belichick and brady win before the taping of the other team's signals was caught? how many since?

That's what I was trying to say above. It cuts both ways. I don't think we can just say that they'd of won no SB's sans cheating. At the same time, Bruschi's comments and outlook annoy me. It's probably tough for him to self-examine his organization or have his own work ethic compromised by the actions of others, but it's just reality. "I know I worked hard' is just lazy.

i can see bruschi's point. he worked hard and still had to make the plays. but it's alot easier to make those plays when you are in the "right" defense or set to be positioned in the "right place" by the defensive call because you know what's coming.

again, how many highlight plays have ed reed and ray lewis made because the diagnosed the play based off a set or tendency they studied? think what they could do if they knew the play that was signaled in...

it's not the only reason for the super bowl victories, but it is an advantage only one team had and won with, while not duplicating that success without that advantage. it can't be overlooked.

LoL Harbaugh revising his previous comments.

I would like to see some real.competition at K. Cundiff was money.two years ago. Not so much last year. I worry about him in the clutch again. Given lesser importance on ko distance, makes more sense to have a Stover type.

I can see Harbaughs point. The perception now is that those two teams had an unfair edge to win SuperBowls...may or not be fair. Doesn't matter though, they won the trophy and years from now no one will remember that there was even a hint of scandal.

It's much like how people forget that two of the ***skins SuperBowls came in strike years, and their scab players won a lot of important divisional games that put them in the playoffs. Tainted but no one remembers.

OK lets say they deserve asterisks. Thats fair.

allow me to do your work for you...take your time...

It's much like how people forget that two of the ***skins SuperBowls came in strike years, and their scab players won a lot of important divisional games that put them in the playoffs. Tainted but no one remembers.

No, I get your point. I'm just waiting for a valid one.