General Sports Water Cooler

PHILLIES MAGIC!!!!!

Havnt all ur teams made the playoffs in the past year?

OMG MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC

That thread would be wholly different and O's fans would be singing a different tune if they swept instead.

it sure doesn't match up with the 90s though

-doc getting banned for a year
-cone masturbating in the bullpen
-bobby bo telling klap he would "show him the bronx"
-saberhagen spraying reporters with bleach
-vince coleman throwing a firecracker at a little girl
-coleman, doc and darryl boston getting accused of rape
-gregg jeffries' open letter on the fan
-generation k completely flaming out
-kevin mcreynolds not knowing how to use a lifecycle
-todd hundley playing in the outfield
-carl everett beating his kids
-the spring training media boycott

Your ballpark is OPACY, which is the model modern ballpark almost 20 years after it opened. We built a new ball park, and still couldn't do it right. Our main meeting area, the "Jackie Robinson Rotunda" is an utter disgrace that pays tribute not to the current team that occupies the building, but to a different existing franchise from the past. Sure the Mets' purpose was to bring back National League baseball to New York, and its colors and fanbase are derived from the Dodgers & Giants. But model the entire main space after the Dodgers is inherently embarrassing. I was there this weekend. You wouldn't know you're in a Mets ballpark until you're upstairs.

LOLOL

i'm not really sure what the cutoffs are here. i guess the mets had to have had their last playoff appearance be in 1996 to be allowed to bitch about being a mets fan. or maybe it could have been 2006, but they had to lose their last 7 games by an aggregate of 175-0 to blow a 7 game lead in 2007. or maybe they had to blow september leads three straight years, followed by back-to-back 130+ loss seasons

maybe everything could be solved if they just moved way upstate so nobody would worry about the yankees anymore, because the syracuse sky chiefs just don't match up to the mets as far as winning tradition goes

O's fans clearly have had it worse in recent history than the Mets, I'm not sure how that is debatable.

BTW I was very impressed with the Mets these past 3 games. I couldn't name half their lineup before Monday but they've put together a solid team. francisco at the back of the pen is scary, i'm not sure why Parnell isn't used there instead.

i don't know why it's an argument of who has it worse. is that really being argued? is it relevant to what i should feel about the team i root for--other teams have it worse, thus i can't emote even given many reasons to do so? i think you can factor just how spectacular the mets' failures have been--given the money spent, the relative levels of hype, etc.--as something in "favor" of the mets, but it's not going to negate not winning for a long ass time. if o's fans are mad about how the series went, then fine, but let's just say i disagree very strongly with some things being said (esp. that the yankees' success plays a big role in exaggerating feelings and that i should somehow view the 2007/08, and by some measure, 98 seasons as successes when no fan, no matter how rational, could possibly look at them that way)

as for the serious baseball talk, well, i'm gonna get attacked for anything i say right now, but you can't take much from 3 games. it's obvious the mets' rotation is a lot better than anyone thought it is, but its continued success depends on whether johan is going to stay healthy. the offense has been "good," but there's a lot not sustainable about it, but maybe my opinion changes once guys get healthier and davis continues getting it back together. the bullpen and defense still suck, even if it wasn't evident in this series and that's not going to change. i think people in charge don't think parnell really has the makeup for closing or even full-time setup duties (miguel batista 8th inning guy ftl) b/c his command isn't great, he relies too much on his fastball, doesn't pitch well with runners on, whatever. he's been more unlucky than bad imo, but then i'm not a manager

Certainly not identical in suffering.