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Being offended by a word isn't small minded?
I can see why some people might wish the name would change, but those who are adamant for it annoy me as much (or more) than those against it. Words are just words. Intent is neccesary to give words "power." There is no bad intent here. Let's move on...there are plenty of better things we can complain about in an effort to continue the pussification of society (sorry to offend).
I wish I cared as much about anything as Keegs cares about racist sports team names.
This post was edited by Canyonerooooo 18 months ago
If I heard somebody talking about "redskins", I'd think they were having a conversation about potatoes before a racial slur would even cross my mind.
Just call them the Beltways and have the double win of not offending Native Americans but royally pissing off every DC metro area resident whenever they think of them...
Perfect Snyder move
This post was edited by BtownHeel 18 months ago
I think anyone who wants to be on the same side of the argument as mrs boozer should probably reconsider their argument.
well pretty much everything you just posted is absolutely wrong.
Explain how being offended by a word is small minded? I simply cannot replace the word "***skin" (a word born of extreme violence and hatred) with a similar slur and think that this particular slur is ok, because hell...it's just a word. There is no way in hell you would walk up to some random black guy or even be within his earshot and use the word "nigger." You may just be talking about the lone black guy in the office with no intent to be racist, but your ignorance and lack of intent don't make the word less powerful. Plenty of people thought this way throughout the last few (and this) century. If Native Americans made up 14% of the US population you can guarantee there would be no team named ***skins or any caricatures such as Chief Wahoo.
There are more important issues but it doesn't mean we have to tackle issues by ranking them, and it's past time this name was changed. Thumbs up to the city paper.
I also nominate the term foreskins so that they can at least kindof continue marginalizing a people with their name.
I like how the don't change the name camp start their argument by saying 'it's not offensive'.
So, chiefs has to go too, right?
And the change the name camp is all middle class white people
Just change the name to Washington Skins. Its a simple solution like how the Rays took out the Devil before Rays.
If this includes potato skin bars at every concession stand then I might change my pro team affiliation
again, you address everything but the issue at hand.
thats bc i wasn't trying to address the issue at hand
I'm going to have to cut you off here and point out that all of the earliest recorded uses of the word WERE BY NATIVE AMERICANS. Talk more about ignorance though.
I think we can all agree that the football team does not intend to disparage the history of Native Americans in this area by using the term "Redskin." What would be the point of that? However, who are we to say that just because the team does not intend for it to be pejorative that American Indians should not and cannot be offended by it? Of course they can (and some do) find it offensive. Over time, its usage has changed, so it's easy to see why it still conjures up a foul taste for some Native Americans.
There's really no reason for Washington to continue calling its football team the Redskins. That it offends so many people and is so closely related to bigotry and hatred should be enough for the team and its fans to want to change.
its funny how this pops up every few years but nothing changes. they will never change the name. time to move on.
If he thought you were refering to him racially he would shrug it off. If he thought you were associating him with the football team he would be insulted and embarassed.
Why are you dipshits at homecoming instead of bothering with this topic. The name isn't changing. City paper is doing this as a PR move.
Hail to the REDSKINS!
“Route 1, where everybody meets.” ~Nick Faust #5
to your 1st point - that is absurdity at it's highest. Are you trying to suggest that non English speaking people coined an English pejorative?
to your other points - I agree.
it will change in your lifetime.
I agree with this. Maybe I'm an insensitive asshole or something, but it seems fairly harmless until there's an actual outcry. I don't care if they change the name because it clearly can be seen as offensive, but I feel like the name is out there as a harmless football team and not an ethnic slur.
You really think something this highly discussed and debated wouldn't have been looked at by historians and researchers? They have concluded that this was a term that was first used by Native Americans. Claiming that Native Americans did not speak English by 1800 - now that is absurd.
You are completely wrong.
It's a term started by Native Indians that offends white people. The team was also named after an Indian coach.
Definitely equivalent to Nigger!
Wow. Good thing Native Americans couldn't ever speak English, or that languages can't possibly be translated!
Correct, intent is not the primary determination.
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