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the term is hateful, even if the usage of it today would be seen as anachronistic. it is a term that in history has been used to marginalize a group of American citizens. to defend a piece of hatespeech for something as trivial as a professional sports team just reeks of small-mindedness.
It would never occur to me to call a Native American a redskin. I've never heard it said in that way. Have you? Has anyone?
who cares about me or the people I know.
whats the rule on how many years have to pass where people that mrs_boozers know don't use a racial slur for it to become an acceptable mascot for a sports team?
No, you're reading way too much into it. Its a term that has no meaning, other than the name of a football team, and it hasn't had meaning since probably the 30's. I know its hip to be offended but you guys are trying way to hard.
Well that's why I asked everyone. Can a word never lose a negative connotation?
Yea I went to their website to see if they still used the indian face logo before commenting on it...it was plastered on the front page. that shit is offensive to me. period. it should be to anyone regardless of ethnicity. a freakin dopey looking smiling red face Indian.
I should probably note at this point that I didn't ask anyone about it and it would be pretty weird if Native Americans just came up to random unassuming white people and started complaining about sports team names.
I don't think that native americans have the power in numbers in north america to have a say in much of anything. that doesn't make it ok to disregard a stereotype.
We are talking about the word Redskins. There is no ambiguity here. There is no 'interpretation' or what you associate it with. If you speak english, you know what Redskin means. There are no semantics or political correctness here. It's straightforward regardless of how you personally identify the word.
No, I'd probably go with Tonto.
classlessthug: I have too much on my plate to worry about the fact that my junk intimidates some needle D undergrad.
There are some offensive slurs for black people or asians that haven't been used in decades, maybe even over 100 years. Doesn't mean it would be a good idea to name a sports team after them.
Can you post any of these terms? I'm curious if there are any I'm still using and if I'm not, I might want to add them to my repertoire.
Is Redskin even a derogatory term?
FWIW, I was at the Mall a few years ago for some Native American culture event that my wife wanted to see and there were many Native Americans there who voiced their displeasure over the redskins nickname. It certainly isn't #1 on their agenda of things to worry about, but it was definitely mentioned as an example of the lack of respect they receive in this country.
I'm stunned it's been allowed to exist with very little media play.
Well if they wanted more respect they should have invented guns so when Europeans came they weren't using bow and arrows
So taking the case all the way to the Supreme Court does not represent an outcry? Interesting perspective.
I was curious so I ran a search and found articles claiming that "only 10%" of Native Americans find the name offensive. When you consider there are nearly 5 million Native Americans, and probably 4 times that many mixed race Native Americans, "only 10%" represents a half a million people minimum.
So I'm not exactly ready to dismiss the opinion of over a half a million people. It doesn't matter if you or I think the name is offensive, if this many Native Americans do then it's offensive. Period.
This post was edited by DarrellGreenFan 18 months ago
You've got to be kidding, right?
Speaking as a huge Skins fan, it's time for it to go. I see no legitimate arguement for keeping it.
This post was edited by UMClassof90 18 months ago
HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!!!
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"oriental" has become offensive to few east Asians, most don't care enough to start a crusade.
Grappler is correct on this. Just because you don't hear about it on the today show doesn't mean it's not offensive. We have two part native American friends, one big enough in the community to be involved in the native American museum. Both are offended by the name, both don't have the time or conviction to rail against an established franchise like the skins. Ive had conversations with them...just because the community doesn't have the will, strength or dedication to fight it doesn't mean it's not offensive. They have many other priorities, they've been beaten up as a society and there are a million things to address, fighting over the name of a football team mascot is not high on their priorities individually or as a community.
Don't you mean they should have created white mans diseases?
i hope they never change it. one because its not a big deal and more importantly whatever they choose will be horrible. just look at the wizards.
The Washington Indian Givers seems more appropriate
Sambo's comes to mind.... I think a restaurant chain ended up changing it's name because of the outcry over its name as racist even though it had been that way for 20 plus years.
he can also add, coon, spook, boogie, and shade to his repertoire. My racist native-american grandmother used these terms on a daily basis.
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