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Last night, my team lost a close softball game. I'm still angry today because I legitimately think we were better than the other team. Which made me ask zwterp about how in the hell athletes deal it when they lose to a team they are clearly better than (see, e.g., Caps against Rangers, Pens against Montreal, Ravens against anyone they lose to, anyone that loses to the Redskins, etc.) He said it was because he truly thinks athletes really don't care and because they have all the other perks to fall back on (money, banging hot wimmenz, etc.). I said I disagreed because these are the same jocks we all know that are super competitive and are indignant when they lose.
What say you, Suque? Do we care more as fans due to our upbringing/emotional attachment, or do athletes care more than us because they are the ones involved in the game?
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by RaiseHigh 12 months ago
"It's just so hard," Greivis said. "It's my heart, my love. Maryland made me who I am."
I'm not saying they don't care about losing (obviously they do), but they have some personal incentives for doing well that us fans do not.
C+ on the troll game.
I think most professional and major college athletes care about losing but have figured out how to get over it quickly, especially in the regular season. I don't think you can be mentally/emotionally prepared to play the next game at a high level if you're dwelling on the one you just lost, no matter how frustrating it might have been. A frustrating postseason loss probably stings a little bit more, but they still can't allow it to linger long enough to affect the preparation for the next season. To use your example, the Super Bowl champion Ravens probably couldn't have pulled it off if they had allowed the frustrating loss to New England, in a game they should have won, to affect them the same way it affected the team's fans. The same goes for Maryland basketball in 2001-2002.
Depends somewhat on the circumstances. I don't think baseball players care as much since they play 162, so some random May loss is just that, a random May loss. I'm sure most players get upset over pivotal games, with some not caring as much (if at all) and others caring about it way more than normal.
sweet, raise turned into a troll!
Fans more than pros. College athletes maybe given the circumstances.
Yeah, definitely. I think most pros probably care about the outcome of a regular season game less than many fans. But a playoff game or elimination game probably carries greater weight.
When fans are going after athletes on twitter, you do see many of them say stuff to the tune of "it sucks we lost, but I get to drive home in my luxury car to my mansion while you still have to live your shitty life," so there's that
Depends on the athlete, but in general I think a die hard fan cares more.
Go away, KA!
Need to hear from charmcity before I post.
I don't know what was trolling.... I was attempting to make a very lame joke, I guess. The premise of the thread remains.
I guess that is my cue to chime in. I think players take it really hard, but in some ways it's easier for them to deal with losing. Granted I am far from a professional athlete, but here is my take from when I played sports at obviously a very low level. It was incredibly frustrating to lose, but I could always walk away knowing that at least I did the absolute very best I could on that day and I had to be able to live with that. As a fan, you are just sitting there on the sidelines watching everything unfold, totally helpless, so I feel like the fan is very often going to take losing harder.
The athlete also knows that tomorrow is a new day, especially in a sport like baseball, and you have to flip the script ASAP and start preparing for what's ahead, not what's behind. You often hear that coachspeak coming from football teams following a loss. Come Monday morning, the coaches and players forget about the previous week and start preparing for the next game while fans are calling into talk shows screaming all week about why the team sucks so much.
As many have said, the pro athlete also gets to enjoy the perks of having millions of dollars, nice cars, houses, women, etc, which helps ease the pain of losing. If losing were that horrible for every athlete, why do players keep signing big money deals with the same teams when they could take a little less and play for a competitive team? Some athletes go that route, but very few.
Then again, these athletes invest their entire lives in this, from offseason training to watching tape, etc. I think it really comes down to the particular athlete, but in general, I'd still say the fan takes losing worse than the athlete.
Players have more perspective on the overall situation so they don't get as high or low unless the situation calls for it. A random regular season game where a fan freaks out and writes off the season is very different to how athletes react. But losing playoff games/important/season ending games are 100x harder on most athletes then fans. I do agree it also depends on the player, and even the sport. Some sports are naturally more emotional then others. Even though baseball teams are generally pretty close and all friends, the sport lacks the teamwork aspect of the other 3 major sports. Basketball I think has the teamwork aspect more then any, but I don't get the sense that players these days are as close to each other as they used to be. Football are generally the best mix of teamwork, toughness and camaraderie....and that usually results in players investing more emotion in to the results of games.
This post was edited by WMTerp12 12 months ago
Oh and this only matters in the sense of playoffs or championships. No one other than fans care about random regular season games
Did the Ravens players enjoy winning the superbowl more than the Ravens fans did?
If this is the question, then it is dependent on the player, but on average they care significantly more.
Depends on the sport, but many athletes enjoy the idea of competing against the best and building your own core or making your mark by turning around a losing team, rather then just joining up with the best guys and beating teams because you have the best talent.
There was a controversy in Pittsburgh when Ryan Clark was in the Ravens locker room after the Steelers-Ravens game yukking it up with Ed Reed. It seemed like a lot of fans were taking it very seriously, and they questioned how he could be friends with a hated rival. And his response was basically that on the field during the game it's his job to do everything he can to make sure the other team doesn't score, but it's not his job to hate the other team.
I think this depends entirely on the athlete, sport, situation, etc.
I think that the best athletes absolutely care more than the fans. The average, mediocre, journeymen professional athletes, maybe not.
"The biggest losers in life are people correcting message board grammar . Fact not opinion"
The Hogies take it the worst, but an average player probably takes it harder than a normal rational fan imo.
This isn't really the same thing.
This kind of stuff happens all the time.
I'm pretty sure 10 year old me took losing a random regular season little league basketball game with the 8 foot rims far worse than any fan or pro athlete ever has.
Depends what you mean by "care."
The best athletes care more in the sense that they put in the time/work to be at an elite level, but I don't think that they get as emotionally involved/down in a loss as fans do. Even the best athletes lose a lot, so they get used to it and know that they need to start preparing for the next game/match/event.
It's so much easier to deal with things that you had some control over.
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