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shocker lefty sticks up for the disgusting human being
You might be thinking of Bobby Gonzalez at Seton Hall (former HC) or something, but it wasn't Rice.
Rice just finished his third year.
Weren't you the one talking about how this guy was a snitch, rather than a whistleblower for the first few pages of the thread?
"It's just so hard," Greivis said. "It's my heart, my love. Maryland made me who I am."
LOL at this analysis. Even assuming that this unattributed and blind quote is the "reality," it's not like the guy is saying the behavior didn't occur or was acceptable...he's saying that the behavior stopped and/or got better!
I honestly can't believe he's not fired yet. The AD must be afraid of MIke Rice. I would.
I think read there were 2 to 3 hours of tape with this behavior.
Throwing balls is just childish, but the racial and homophobic slurs are offenses that should warrant termination, especially in light of the case at rutgers about the bullying of the gay kid.
On top of grabbing kids.
I found the throwing of the balls, at the kids heads mind you, to be the most egregious offense. Not saying the others weren't bad, but he put those kids in danger.
This post was edited by jsh 12 months ago
I think its just that they are intrinsically linked.
For one he hired Rice. Also, he knew about this months ago and went with only a 3 game suspension, so there is a very good chance they both get sacked for this, not just Rice.
if none of the video is new (after last december), how can the AD fire the coach? he was already punished for that behavior. he had to be fired then, if at all, because they would have had a case to fire him for cause.
of course, anyone can always be terminated, but if they let him go now it reeks of a PR move, and they would have to pay him what he's owed under his contract.
NYCTerp is now OCTerp
According to the AD the university president reviewed the tape and approved the 3 game suspension as well. How do all 3 not get sacked for this? Heads are going to roll.
He's getting fired. Book it.
Just because he's your new hero for calling someone a faggot doesn't mean he's keeping his job.
Kamal, I agree with you 100%. Nowhere did I say the behavior was acceptable. My point is, it is old video, the AD punished him, coach has worked on his problems, and players seem to like him and insist that things have changed for the better. So why fire him now? The only reason that can happen is to solve a PR mess.
"Turgeon has 3 key guys on current roster - Allen, Dez, and Jake - that have not improved." -Orioleterp
I tend to agree, which is why I think the decision should be taken out of the hands of the AD. The coach should be fired by the University President, and the AD should resign over his handling of this incident.
i get it, he probably will be fired. but he should have been fired in december, or not all. firing him now makes it look like they are caving in to the media. as leftyterp said, all you backseat ADs like to judge this guys practice. so he runs them hard, big deal. maybe called them a name or two (i was called worse things during elementary school recess), man up and deal with it or get out of the way.
I'm cool with it up until he starts shoving them.
Luckily I played for a coach who would never call a player a bad name or curse at them so I didn't have to experience this type of POTTY MOUTH.
And all these genius people on the Internet act like the AD solely makes a decision off of video tapes and doesn't have to take into consideration 100 other factors and potential ramifications of firing a coach. There are also huge risks to firing him, which internet know it alls dont have to deal with. Which is exactly why sports journalists and internet posters are not athletic directors.
This post was edited by LeftyTerp 12 months ago
Explains a lot...
Tahj said last night he would have put his hands on a coach when the basketballs started flying at them.
I don't care if runs them into the ground. I don't care if he screams until he's blue in the face.
Where I have the issue is the slurs and the balls being thrown at faces.
This post was edited by GunnerOne 84 12 months ago
The way this was handled in Decemeber was botched, he should have been fired then. The fact they slapped him with only a 3 game suspension screams of sweeping this under the rug. Rice is done, the real question is will the AD follow.
At my head I guess you're right. If he threw it at my feet I think I might have to hold back laughter.
president should follow too, since he saw the tape in december and signed off on the suspension
Rutgers is now the source of widespread ridicule and condemnation across the country. No one in that state -- from the Governor down through the University president to the AD to the boosters -- needs that. They're a national, beyond-sports news cycle laughingstock/outrage. He's done. Those are your "ramifications."
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