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You don't see a guy play for awhile and then suddenly you forget about all the things that made him limited.
Pretty sure noel was likely number one pick all year long
Noel going #1 is still by default to some degree but he also came on strong as the year went on, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Still raw as hell but he was starting to show his upside.
Porter has NBA length but he is rail thin. I don't think the Wizards are in a position to go strictly off positional needs.
There are some players who are special and my eyes tell me that Oladipo has a far better chance at being special. I get the "he is too small for SF" argument but he played SF in college. Beal was good last year, but he was Hurt alot, and done nothing that I would say he is a lock as a superstar in this league.
I personally would take Oladipo over every other player in the draft (with the exception of a healthy Noel). He has the ability to be special, and he works to hard to be a bust
First Tayshaun Prince is rail thin. But he has had a successful 10 year career with a NBA championship on his resume.
Just because you played SF in college doesn't mean you can do it in the pros. Ben McLemore was a center in high school. That doesn't mean he could be a center in college.
As I've said in an earlier post, Oladipo will be a constant on the NBA All defensive team. He is that good defensively. The problem I have is if the Wizards draft Oladipo (and it would be a good pick), what will the Wizards do to address the SF, PF and C positions for the future. Until I get a good answer to that question, I wouldn't draft Oladipo.
I actually do think Oladipo is going to be a 10+ year NBA guy and a good player, but I think we need more scoring at the 3. That and I don't really think you can play a lot of Wall/Beal/Oladipo lineups...that's a very small lineup unless you think Oladipo can cover a big 3.
If Beal stays healthy, he's pretty much a lock to be at worst an occasional all star player and at best a top 8-10 player.
Last ten years of number 3 overall picks:
2003: Carmelo Anthony
2004: Ben Gordon
2005: Deron Williams
2006: Adam Morrison (LOL)
2007: Al Horford
2008: OJ Mayo (westbrook and kevin love were 4 and 5)
2009: James Harden
2010: Derrick Favors
2011: Enes Kanter
2012: Bradley Beal
I have bolded the players that have made an all star/all nba team. That means that 4/10 already have, and I think Beal is next in line to join that club. There have been a couple turd sandwiches thrown in, but for the most part you get at worst a solid contributor. But we should really be shooting for a hopeful all star
Can't we just resign Webster at the 3?
I'm sure that's the plan no matter what, but I don't think anyone is ready to make a long term investment in him.
I'm convinced the Wizards best deal is to trade for Cousins and the 7th pick. I would throw in Booker and Singleton.
If Burke is pick anywhere 2-6, the Wizards will have the player who is left over from McLemore, Oladipo, Porter, Bennett and Alex Len. I would be extremely happy with any one of those 5 players.
I think everyone would like Cousins and the 7th pick, but there's no way the Kings do that.
This thread is so frustrating. So many people in here think they know way more about basketball than they do
Serious question: Do we know if Cousins needs medication, or is he just an ass/young and immature?
All the talent in the world, but something doesn't seem quite right in his head.
"And I try to har-mo-nize with songs the lonesome sparrow sings...
There are no kings inside the Gates of Eden."
I feel like handing him a huge guaranteed contract should fix whatever's ailing him.
Boogie, Jimmer and the 7th for Seraphin, Singleton, Vesely, the 3rd, one of the 2d rounders and a top-10 protected pick next year (make it unprotected the following year).
Works under the cap, trades garbage for garbage (Vesely for Jimmer) and gives Sacramento another potential lottery pick next year. Doubt the Kings bite tho.
It is the business walk of the biggest, baddest bear in the national park happening upon an abandoned picnic.
I'm more interested in trying to pry the Mavs' pick away, given they want to trade it to make room for a D12/CP3 pairing. Maybe a Seraphin, Singleton, 2d for Morrow, Crowder, Akognon and the 12th? Saves the Mavs nearly 2MM...
I dont see us trading this pick. Theyll do work to find out best player and take him. Dont want cousins. Just get us a third young stud and we are set for a decade
first off....Jimmer is MJ compared to vesely.
vesely chases butterflies in right field and nobody wants him.
The thought is OK but I don't think I would do this trade. First I would substitute Booker for Singleton, This is his last year in Washington most likely. Second, who would you take with the 13th pick. I hope not Muhammad. What a cancer he is.
I agree that keeping the pick may be the wise decision. But there will be a future core player to go with Wall and Beal at #7.
Obviously there are fans of Oladipo who would like to see him here in Washington. There are people who would like to see Porter in Washington. Offensively Bennett may be the best fit in Washington. If you add Mclemore and Alex Len, between those five players, there isn't a bad pick for the Wizards.
The problem the Wizards need to figure out is what they need to do to make the playoffs next season and at the same time find another player to go with Wall and Beal to be the core for the next 10 years.
I think there have been some pretty good ideas thrown around so far. We'll see in 5 weeks what will happen.
Edit to say that some professional sport writers have come up with more idiotic ideas than what I've seen on this board so far. Mike Wise column and the SB Nation column on the Wizards trading up for the #1 pick.
This post was edited by kool 11 months ago
To clarify, the Wiz would keep the 3rd overall and include one of their 2d rounders in the deal. I'm fine swapping out Booker for Singleton. And the goal would be to get another young big at 13 (assuming Porter or Bennett at 3), so maybe a Dieng.
Sorry. I didn't realize that we would keep the #3 pick. If that's the case, I like the trade. There will be some value at #13. Even though the people on the board are not crazy about Euros, I would at least take a look at Schroeder, Karasev and Saric. Jamaal Franklin is a hot commodity right now. He's just as athletic as Oladipo. But he can't shoot worth a lick right now.
I doubt the Wizards will win the battle for Dallas pick. I'm sure other teams can come up with better offers.
There are many good points here, excellent.
This is a very tough call for Wizards, trading down, trades and or free agents, keeping pick at 3.
At 3 I think our needs are another wing or big.
The safest pick is Porter, I think he will have very good NBA career.
I would resign Webster and I think Porter can play some 2 or point forward.
I am very high on Oladipo and most guards in this draft seem like safe picks into second round.
In second round I see Pierre Jackson, Brandon Paul, McCallum, and Siva being in NBA at some point.
I like Len but I am told he has shoulder issues.
I do not like the Kelly O from Gonzaga. The big that intrigues me most is now Steven Adams from Pitt, 19 years old, very tall and can shoot.
Trey Burke has All Star Potential.
The draft is a crapshoot for many players, especially the bigs, there are many issues
One factor you must consider is durability, which will not be injury prone. Some elite skill players who are frail and depend on explosion and vertical and speed are high risk injury. McLemore comes to mind, but you must consider him. I am down some because he is less than 6'4'"
Players like Noel, Zeller, Bennet, Saric will have to play out.
For Wizards if I had to choose a 3 it is Porter by landslide
This post was edited by JLK33 11 months ago
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