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That team is so devoid of talent it's incredible.
feel free to guard tristan thompson!
I hate Jordan Crawford.
these Cleveland dudes are killing me. They're giving a Buckhantz-Dagger-like reaction after every basket and rebound.
Looks like SOP for flopping
My boy Earl Barron and Singleton were hitting the offensive boards hard as fuck.
Also, Kyrie Irving is forever going to be overrated.
Would have been VERY wizards to give up a triple double on opening night.. Glad Varejao only got 9, 23, 9!!
I think it's kind of unrespectful- Ovie
What an ugly ass team to watch.
Man I missed a lot, I feel like i just witnessed a natural disaster here.
Why has Grunfeld not lost his job yet? He's been the GM for now 9 seasons and produced what, 3 playoff trips, 1 to the second round which was 7 years ago. He's waaaaay past the average NBA gm reign and his results have been garbage.
The worst part is that right now no college player has made the leap up the draft boards so we're looking at turds of the white (Zeller), short and fat (Shabazz), or zero offense (Noel) variety. There's nothing to get excited about.
They were without arguably their best 3 players (Wall, Nene, Seraphin). With that said, the rest of the roster has very little talent and even fewer players to get excited about. I also hated the minutes split. Just about everyone played half the game, and players came in cold late in the game and were obviously out of rhythm. I would like to see Beal and Webster play more than they did.
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I am telling you Beal was overrated, how can he not get minutes with these guys on the roster
We can only hope he's not Calbert Cheaney ver 2.0
Beal will be fine. This team will also improve quite a bit when Wall and NeNe get back. Seraphin should help as well to an extent.
What killed us last night was post defense late and freaking AJ Price becoming a chucker -- did he shoot that many shots his entire career at UConn? Guy is a scrubbbb.
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When actual NBA point guards are covering him he may not reach double figures.
Well he averaged 19 a game as a rookie, so unless he played an entire schedule full of fake NBA PG's, I'm going to go ahead and disagree.
Yeah Irving is ridiculous
It's easy to average 19 points per game when you take one third of the teams shots. It would be interesting to see how many points Irving scored against the tougher Western Conference compared to the weak (Wizards, Toronto, Detroit, Charlotte, etc.) Eastern Conference.
BTW, we didn't say Irving can't play. He is overrated because he pads his stats against weaker teams. I'll check out how many points he gets against the stronger teams this season.
To the NBAReference-mobile!
Rookie Year points:
I picked some good teams as guideposts. Choose your own teams if you'd like.
vs. Boston: 24, 21, 23
vs. Dallas: 20
vs. Denver: 18
vs. Indiana: 22, 20
vs. Los Angeles Lakers: 21
vs. Memphis: 25
vs. Miami: 17, 16, 17
vs. Oklahoma City: 9
vs. Orlando: 13, 18
vs. Philly: 9, 12
Top-10 scoring performances, in descending order:
32, vs. New Jersey Nets
29, vs. Atlanta Hawks and Milwaukee Bucks
28, vs. Milwaukee
26, vs. New Jersey and the Phoenix Suns
25, vs. Charlotte Bobcats, Detroit Pistons, and Memphis Grizzlies
24, vs. Boston Celtics
"And I try to har-mo-nize with songs the lonesome sparrow sings...
There are no kings inside the Gates of Eden."
Of the top-10 scoring games, looks like vs. Memphis and vs. Boston were the only 2 against legit teams. Atlanta and Milwaukee weren't lol-bad, but were very middle of the pack.
Scoring performances against Miami, OKC, and Philly stand out the most. I'd like to know who was guarding him in each game. If it was LeBron, Westbrook, and Iggy, that makes a lot of sense as to why he was held in check.
Looks like kool has a decent argument for Irving feasting more on weaker and mid-level Eastern teams (New Jersey, Atlanta, Milwaukee, Charlotte, Detroit), but he did have three very solid games vs. Boston (went 1-2 in those 3 games).
Almost missed Chicago--he only played one game against them, earlier in the season.
Went for 13/2/3, on 5/11 shooting, presumably against Rose.
I just can't give credit to someone who scored 29 points on AJ Price and Janerro Pargo. I think Irving will be a good player. But not top 5 PG good. (D. Williams, Paul, Rose, Westbrook and maybe Rondo - I know I'm missing a couple of people here.)
I think Kyrie can be one of the top scoring PGs in the league, up there with Rose and Westbrook. He seems to be injury prone though, so we'll see.
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