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When facing elimination
Lebron 31.5 ppg, 46% FG, 10 RPG, 6.5 APG, 45 MPG, 6-6 W/L
Jordan 31.3 ppg, 44.5% FG, 7.9 RPG, 7 APG, 41.6 MPG, 6-7 W/L
Kobe 21.5 ppg, 41.4% FG, 5.8 RPG, 3.5 APG, 9 -10 W/L
Lebron 34 ppg, 46.5% FG, 8.1 RPG, 3.5 APG, 2-2 W/L
Jordan 33.3 ppg, 45.7% FG, 7,7 RPG, 7 APG, 2-1 W/L
Kobe 22.2 ppg, 38,9% FG, 8 RPG, 5 APG, 5-1 W/L
Absurd numbers. Kobe's numbers are LOL, but his teammates bail him out in game 7s.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by TheCardinalTerp 10 months ago
"Anyone who talks about Jordan Williams leaving knows nothing about basketball. Absolutely nothing" - Hogie 02/27/2011
If only there was a thread you could have left this insightful post in.
classlessthug: I have too much on my plate to worry about the fact that my junk intimidates some needle D undergrad.
Spurs win now.
Odd that you post those stats after that game. The numbers looked pretty good in the end, but other than that early fourth quarter run, he didn't play particularly well.
Just stop. I dont hate lebron, but it is crystal fucking clear that Michael Jeffey Jordan is the undisputed Greatest Of All Time and it aint even remotely close.
The entire point of this thread is not to praise Lebron but to shit on Kobe. That's Cardinal's shtick for some reason. So let us all just LOL at Kobe so Cardinal can feel better about himself.
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LeBron James has a chance to be better than Jordan. It's a chance, nothing more, and it won't be clear anytime soon. Slim pickings on the players who will have that opportunity now and in the future. Appreciate what we're watching and when his career is over we can do all these comparisons. I hate the extremists on both ends of this incredibly stupid conversation.
No, he doesn't. I don't know how anyone can say that after watching LeBron for 10 years. Is his demeanor going to suddenly change? Is he suddenly going to find a consistent jump shot/mid-range game? Will he suddenly stop whining about every call, or not just keep jumping from city to city to throw together a dream team instead of building something in one place the hard way? I could keep going.....
It's an incredibly stupid argument because people keeping bringing up LeBron to compare him to Jordan. There is no comparison. Jordan was so much better than LeBron that it's really an insult to MJ and intelligent basketball fans to mention them together in the same breath.
This post was edited by charmcity3131 10 months ago
Saying he is not mike is not really an insult, btw.
Exactly. He is a ridiculously talented player in his own right. He might not ever be a top five player, but top 10 or 15 isn't anything to be ashamed of. He will go down as better than a lot of great players.
People who refuse to say he has a chance are what make a reasonable discussion impossible.
It's like 99% he will end up as a top 5 player. He'll most likely never be #1 though.
This post was edited by WMTerp12 10 months ago
You're trolling or are an idiot. Either way just please for the love of god stop posting. Please.
The biggest Lebron haters on here and out if my idiot friends happen to be the most hardcore ravens fans. Same people tweeting about people "stealing the ravens theme song".
Who knows what the future holds, but when it's all said and done I'm not sure I'll even know how to sit down and evaluate Lebron --- or how others will. MJ had the advantage of being first and didn't have as quite extreme of a media age. So there's a lot of perceptions people bring into the debate with them.
On a micro level of their games I don't see how Lebron overcomes MJ's clutch, consistency, or smooth mid-range. But you never know.
On a macro I hold the talents to south beach against him. . .not as a PR disaster, but as a competitive shortcut.
He's a polarizing guy, as sports so often provide. Game's like last night are beyond confusing. He had 30, 10, and 11! But he also looked terrified of anything outside of 10 feet and was just putting his head down and forcing a ton. I do think it favors Lebron that his game is different. Kobe was closer to MJ in style and I think that (among other things) work against him.
When is Maryland signing our next 5 star hoops recruit? Cause he's probably going to surpass Jordan in my eyes.
What did you want him to do - stay in Cleveland? Any other team he was considering at the time would've automatically become the best team in the league with him on it (and he'd have probably scored more in most places other than Miami.)
This post was edited by UMTerp 10 months ago
It isn't about staying in Cleveland, it's the Big 3 thing. I wanted him to go to the Knicks. He could've built his own legacy there, been the #1 guy in the biggest sports market in the world on a franchise that had never really had a guy who was MVP caliber.
People who refuse to see reality do the same.
I always say this and articulate it poorly. . .I don't follow the NBA enough to know what all of the realistic options were. But I am fairly certain that the Big 3 in Miami was the extreme option. And I also disliked how that FA manuevering seemed to go down. It always seemed like it was orchestrated at a player level, which bothered me as far as intent. It was like they had the olympic experience, thought damn this was easy, checked in with pat riley to make sure it was possible, and then kept the party going.
Personally, I'd of prefered Lebron winning 1 in Cleveland to 4 in Miami.
Idk, I probably don't have a great answer, but the move always felt like a shortcut.
In terms of how I would evaluate how those titles impact his legacy, I completely agree.
its possible but he needs to 1 develop a better jumper and 2 not have so many bad games in the playoffs. Jordan had a killer instinct that I think seperated him from all his peers and the players in todays game. Kobe had a similar instinct but was just a notch below.
Pic Sigs are for losers.
if went to the knicks and brought them just one title, he woulda been one of, if not the biggest star in new york sports history
You never answered my question as to how old you are.
He has a better jumper than Jordan.
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