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I won't say my blood's boiling but Dook's horns are growing a little shorter while North Cacalacky's are getting much longer. WTF, Swofford, at least try to hide the Carolina bias...
Again, you already have baseball rights. If you can't sell them now, they won't add much then.
And if you're going to complain about not being able to schedule big games OOC, you don't get to complain about SOS issues. Clemson can easily solve any SOS issues with a SC, UGA, Furman OOC schedule and 9 ACC games. Attendance goes up (a complaint), SOS goes up (another complaint), which increases the ability to make the proposed playoff.
BTW: the Big 12 is currently playing how many conference games? The Pac-12 is playing 9 conference games plus the Big Ten challenge series. Nick Saban is advocating 9 conference games for competitive balance and to prevent playing some old rivals twice every 12 years. You want to leave the ACC in the past, then complain when you are dragged into the future.
Jim Young at the ACC Sports Journal has a good column on why the Raycom "scandal" doesn't amount to much.
Is Forbes trying to jump in on the Bleacher Report action? Because that's what the article a couple pages back looked like.
Spetman announces that FSU received more than it had expected from the ACC in conference distribution money. The Seminoles received $1.6 million more than the conference had originally told them. Were expecting about $14.1 million given in payouts on Dec. 1 (of last year) and June 1 (of this year). On June 1, the school received the additional money, totaling just short of $16 million for the year.
This means, that previously reported $500,000 budget shortfall the athletic department had from this past school year’s budget cycle, has now been cleared. FSU is in the black for that budget. Spetman said there also should not be a budget shortfall, as previously reported, for the next budgetary cycle. The athletics budget is in the black.
10:10 a.m. — Spetman asked about the reports about FSU’s supposed $2.4 million shortfall entering the 2012-13 budgetary cycle. He didn’t say the reports were false, just that they reported what was essentially incomplete information. Because the ACC was conservative on its payout, the athletics board hadn’t included the $1.6 million in its budget. So, a shortfall was reported based on the numbers that had been provided.
10:22 a.m. — The board learns that Seminole Boosters have received approximately $20 million in funds for the Indoor Football Practice Facility. That’s not to say, however, that all of those funds are in the coffers right now. Those funds are all timed to come in at different times, according to one trustee member. But, the pledges have been made. They could go into a special investment fund that would have to be paid off at a particular time. Essentially, it sounds like the IPF is on solid schedule footing, for now.
OrlandoSentinel.com Blog Chopping Block Seminoles Blog The latest news and analysis from Tallahassee about the Florida State Seminoles.
From the same blog:
8:35 a.m. — Board of trustees chair Andy Haggard called meeting to order.
8:36 a.m. — Andy Haggard leads trustees in performing the tomahawk chop for 10 minutes
I feel bad that your 11,000 students who attend the Georgia game are having to pay $65 each for their tickets.....in addition to all the player families, athletic department guests, recruits.......
Oh wait, you mean that 83,000 full-price ticket number isn't accurate??? But I trusted your numbers!!!
WTF - Virginia just played a home-and-home series with USC - the REAL god damn USC - in 2008 and 2010, did they not? Didn't Wake play Baylor with young RGIII in 2009 and then home-and-homes with Notre Dame and Vanderbilt the last two seasons? Are those not "big" out-of-conference games? What in the living hell is going on with this thread?
Yes, the ACC still trails the SEC and Big 10, but given the SEC’s six consecutive football national championships, the Big Ten’s own network and the ACC’s football struggles, that’s hardly a shock.
With their proximity and shared markets in Florida and South Carolina, the ACC is most often compared to the SEC. The $4 million-per-school disparity between the conferences is not petty cash, but in an era of athletic department budgets routinely ranging from $60 million to $90 million, it’s far less than 10 percent.
The SEC’s $6 million-per-school advantage in 2010-11 was not crippling either. Florida State and Clemson faithful disturbed by the revenue disparity between their schools and SEC rivals Florida and South Carolina need to look far beyond conference payouts.
For example, according to USA Today’s database of 2010-11 Division I athletics budgets, Florida raised $42.0 million in private contributions, more than double Florida State’s $19.30 million. The Gators also earned $7 million more than the Seminoles in licensing fees or media rights, above and beyond the conference disparity.
Finally, there was an $8.37-million difference in “other revenue” separate from league shares. So the notion that ACC membership is the primary reason Florida State generated $78.58 million to Florida’s $123.51 million is patently false.
Same holds for South Carolina ($83.81 million in revenue) and Clemson ($61.17 million). The largest difference between the two was donations, $24.39 million for the Gamecocks, $14.17 million for the Tigers.
Seminoles athletic director appeared at Board of Trustees meeting Friday
That Ingram Smith character isn't giving up the ghost yet, but I enjoyed this twitter back-and-forth with the guy from Warchant:
D.C. Reeves @Warchant_DC
According to figures presented to BOT by #FSU Prez Eric Barron, only 10% of FSU's alumni base lives in Big 12 footprint. 51% live in ACC's.
Ingram Smith @IngramSmith
@Warchant_DC interesting statistic, but wonderfully skewed. how would that change if you were to add the states of FLA and SC to big 12
D.C. Reeves @Warchant_DC
@IngramSmith That was Non-Florida numbers, even for ACC.
Smith admitted that was "compelling".
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The funny thing is that the Big XII is so "stable" now because most of the schools that have some cache left so now the other eight schools revolved around Texas (and Oklahoma to a lesser extent) like the Sun, dependent upon it for continued life. Texas stays because it gets to have veto power over anything and everything and keep its longhorn network.
But think of it this way. Let's say Clemson, Florida State, Oklahoma, and Texas had a summit and agreed that their current situation were untenable and that they needed to join forces. Which is more desirable for the four to join forces with - the ACC 12 or the Big XII 8? Pretty easy answer there.
H&H with Baylor in 2008 and 2009, although RGIII tore his ACL in week 3 of 2009 and Baylor went 4-8. After that came a H&H with Stanford in 2009 and 2010. And while many wouldn't call a 4 game series with Navy "big", they were a bowl team every year of the series. Wake also played Ole Miss H&H just like Clemson did.
Don't blame PKP_313. Clemson can't live without their games against Troy, North Texas, MTSU, LA-Monroe, Central Michigan, Florida Atlantic, LA Tech, and Temple over the last 6 seasons or the 6 FCS games played over the same 6 seasons. How could Clemson make ends meet if they cannot guarantee 2 home games every year in addition to 5 home games every year between the ACC and South Carolina?
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Dabo is not a fan of Clemson moving to the Big XII:
Dabo Swinney says the Big 12 rumors have hurt Clemson's recruiting efforts...
..."Listen, if you want to know what going to the Big 12, how that's going to affect football at Clemson, I've [lived] it for about the last month. And it's been very negative. It's been very negative."
"It's really impacted and affected our recruiting. I've had to spend a lot of time re-recruiting guys and assuring them that we're not going to the Big 12."
"So it's been a real distraction and it's been negative, quite frankly."
"That's just been irresponsible on a lot of people's part, some of things that have been put out there. I know for a fact that we're committed to making this the best league it can possibly be and committed to making Clemson the national champions."
"We'd have to completely change our foot print. We have a foot print at Clemson University that's been established for a long, long time from a recruiting standpoint. Maybe they would like to have us, but we'd have to go recruit on their territory."
"This Southeast territory has been our bread & butter. That's what's made Clemson. People don't want to leave here. They want to play in this foot print. That's a fact. I just don't think it wouldn't be a wise decision (to leave the ACC). That's just the football coach's opinion."
Swinney added, "It's been a real distraction. We are 1000% committed to the ACC. In my opinion, going to the Big 12 would be the worst thing we could do as a football program. It makes zero sense."
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FSU's take from the ACC this year: $16.85 million. Some interesting details in this story:
The ACC distribution varies for each league school, primarily because of year-end reimbursements. The league helps pay for team travel expenses to each conference championship event. The conference also helps cover travel costs for football bowl games and NCAA Tournament basketball games.
FSU was paid $1,075,000 for travel expenses to the Champs Sports Bowl. Final travel reimbursements for all other sports have not yet been finalized, but FSU expects to receive $481,000 for 2011-12.
The ACC also pays for game officials for each member school, deducting those costs from each university’s total distribution.
FSU’s expenses for game officials totaled $428,388.16 and was broken down by sport:
* Baseball: $49,742
* Women’s basketball: $98,735
* Men’s basketball: $151,785
* Football: $96,742.97
* Softball: $19,404.64
* Volleyball: $6,047.96
* Soccer: $5,930.59
I always enjoy reading your articles Spike. They are well thought out and great reads. Plus, you always have an LOL moment or two in every one, thanks for the work.
FSU suggests moving GT to the Atlantic. I actually would be in favor of that.
But who would move from the Atlantic to Coastal, and how would the switches affect permanent crossover partners as Syracuse and Pittsburgh prepare to join the league?
The most logical choice would be Maryland, which would create a Coastal Division in which all schools except Miami were within reasonable drives. That would change the alignments to:
ATLANTIC: Florida State, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Syracuse, Wake Forest, North Carolina State and Boston College.
COASTAL: Miami, Maryland, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Pitt, Duke and North Carolina.
Five of the current crossovers could remain unchanged: Florida State-Miami, Duke-North Carolina, Wake Forest-N.C. State, Boston College-Virginia Tech, and Syracuse-Pitt.
Then you could pair Georgia Tech with Virginia, and Maryland with Clemson, teams that already play every season as division rivals.
How would changes affect Virginia, Virginia Tech?
If we get to switch our basketball rival from Pitt to Cuse, I'll take it.
I never really considered it but coastal would be so much better for us. Easy trips to Virginia, tech and Pitt. Getting duke and unc instead of state and wake and Miami instead of bc. No brainer
I'd take it without that switch. The only downside to that switch would be more JDawg road games.
Plus it was always dumb to have Pitt as our "rivals" in basketball but not have them in our division for football.
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I would be ok with it (from a VT perspective). We do sign a few GA kids every year so I'm not sure if losing games in Atlanta every other year would impact us or not. I know our fans in D.C. love being able to see VT play nearby, so that would be a plus.
I'm still against a true North/South split.
Clemson just landed the consensus #1 player in the country Robert Nkemdiche (Georgia) had offers from the entire the SEC
See the ACC ain't so bad
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BREAKING: Boston U to leave America East for Patriot League.
Now that is interesting. Wasn't aware that the Patriot League was in expansion mode. Bad news for the America East, especially with Stony Brook now presumably an even more attractive target for the CAA.
Some rumors afoot that the CofC is CAA-bound. Not sure I am buying that...yet.
Patriot League still isn't full schollies, right? Seems like another step in the direction of the haves and have nots.
Its full scholarship now
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