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I'm not sure if the opposite may be true. Georgia Southern has a problem not unlike Jacksonville State, where there is already a presence in the league of at least one school in the same (or similar) market.
Georgia Southern's best shot at a Sun Belt berth is as a package deal with Appalachian State. Otherwise it may be competing with some other FBS-leaning schools (Liberty, possibly James Madison and Delaware) for that 12th football spot.
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No matter how you slice it the ACC will be getting the left overs with the 4 other major BCS conferences being married to each other. We either play BE or a runner up from another conference...never conf champ v. conf champ. That will lower the conference image as a whole and solidify as 2nd tier status
Eh...just need to make and win the playoffs. Bowls will be losing their stature over the next few years.
I'd rather go to the Big 10 whether the ACC gets picked apart or not. I hate the ACC.
If the conference does get picked apart, this would be a pretty good alignment. Each conference easily splits into 2 eight-team divisions.....
LOL at Duke ending up in the BOD conference.
There are plenty of good reasons for Florida State to join the Big 12 if that conference decides to expand again, but I seem to be in the vast minority of people who fail to see why the new Big 12/SEC bowl is one of them. The announcement was symbolically significant for the reasons I wrote about last week (mainly because it gives those leagues an ally for the current playoff posturing with the Big Ten/Pac-12/Rose Bowl contingent), but as best as I can tell, it did not tangibly affect the ACC in any way.
The ACC hasn't played the Big 12 champion in a bowl since 2000, the SEC champion since 2004. It's not like it lost something there. There's nothing preventing the league from continuing its relationship with the Orange Bowl, if that bowl so chooses. And most importantly: The bowl deal doesn't make it any harder or easier for Florida State (or Virginia Tech, or Miami) to claim a spot among the Football Four in a given year. If the 'Noles go 13-0 or even 12-1 against their typical schedule (which always includes Florida and the past two years included Oklahoma), they're going to be in the mix just as much as the Big 12 champ. Remember: Florida State finished in the top four (post-bowls) 14 straight seasons from 1987-2000, the last nine of those while playing in a nine-team ACC.
For many people, the Big 12/SEC news cemented the notion that there's now a dividing line between the four strongest conferences and everyone else. Since the ACC has been the fifth- and sometimes sixth-strongest conference for most of the decade, this is not a new development. But in the realignment circus, if enough people begin to believe something's true, then it might as well be. Florida State President Eric Barron last week had the audacity to employ facts and reason to dampen the Big 12 buzz, but the effect lasted just a few days before the Big 12/SEC news riled everyone up again.
Ultimately, FSU should make its decision based on whether the financial gain and increasingly stable leadership of the once-dysfunctional Big 12 outweighs the clunkiness and added expense of sending its basketball team to Stillwater, Okla., on a Monday night. Perhaps the school will decide it's no longer possible in today's climate to be a true national football power in a basketball-centric league. Whatever the case, it should not base the move on access to the national title game. If anything, the 'Noles have a better chance of getting to the playoff from the ACC than they would competing against Texas and Oklahoma every year.
The obvious downside of going with an every-other-week schedule for the first few Mailbags is that there's always the possibility of big news breaking in between editions. Fortunately, all that's happened since May 9 is one of the nation's most prestigious programs openly flirting with a new conference, numerous developments regarding the forthcoming playoff format and two major conferences deciding to start their own bowl game.
Here's the thing about the SEC vs Big 12 bowl: nobody will care.
It's going to be Big 12 #2 vs SEC #2 (or 3) and that's supposed to change the face of college football? When the playoff happens, it will suck the life out of the other bowls. You're already seeing it now -- the non-BCS bowls are irrelevant and the non-title games are afterthoughts. But now instead of 1 title game, there will be 3. But some random exhibition game is going to make everything implode? Don't buy it.
Never understood the hate for the ACC. I'd much rather play UNC/Duke/UVA/VT and now Pitt/Cuse than have to play Minnesota/Iowa/Northwestern.
Wait until they expand the playoffs further.
Hope the ACC avoids the CUSA champ/Big East runner up.
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The ACC should just throw a monkey wrench into everything and do a college bball style conference tournament at the end of the season. I guarantee you it would generate more interest than any bowl game and it gives us the upper hand for once.
UNC and Duke are like Mich/OSU (Big 10) and Texas/Oklahoma (Big12). They own/run the ACC, no way they leave it voluntarily to go to a league where they aren't calling the shots.
More likely UNC/Duke grab some CUSA and Big East teams if anyone leaves the ACC.
USF/UCF, Rutgers, UConn.
Oklahoma would be in the PAC last year if they could of taken Okie State with them.
They would be but they can't. They also couldn't take OKST to the SEC which is why they turned them down as well. OU/OKST will live and die with the B12 now.
I love this idea. Imagine the possibilities:
- 2 divisions (A & B) of 7 teams each
- Each team plays all the teams in the division once in the regular season
- Regular season conference records determine the seeding for the conference tournament, division leaders get byes in first round of tourney
- Conference tourney 1st round goes like this: A2 v B7, A3 v B6, A4 vs B5 & vice versa.
- Each subsequent round would be between the highest seeded A team vs the lowest seeded B team and vice versa.
- All teams play at least 3 rounds to determine final standings
- Total number of conference games = 6 regular season games + 3-4 tourney games (which is the same number as the current configuration)
This would eliminate the completely BS bowl game format. I think anyone who loves the current bowl system doesnt appreciate the concept of a real post-season.
Either do playoffs or ban college football altogether.*
* I would prefer the ban hammer.
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This is awful.
Anyone who would prefer to ban college football should probably stop coming up with college football scenarios.
eamhokie94: Is your name Nazi in pig Latin?
Sun Belt not adding any more members "at this time", apparently. Bad news for Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, along with de facto homeless Idaho.
Clemson's BOT is going to meet to discuss realignment. Just an information-gathering meeting, apparently. Folks just want to chat about it, I guess.
Clemson's BOT did the same thing last year.
Just wanna toss an odd thought out there, so ready those downvote fingers...
If the CTE/brain injury stuff continues to grow and actually starts to affects football negatively, (rules, cost of equipment, liability, less players) wouldn't it be a "real good idea" to be in the strongest basketball conference?
Swofford on Clay Travis' radio show. Haven't listened to it yet.
Totally. That's why we should go to the Big 10 with Duke and Carolina (and maybe Pitt).
Well, I mean, that’s what it is. I doodoo and then listen to Katy Perry.
We're already in the best basketball conference. Stay at 12* and dominate in hoops.
*If we lose FSU/Clemson.
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