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just what we need, fodder for our favorite duke fan to chirp about how everyone is against the poor dukies and none of us could possibly understand it
I hated Jim Spanarkel, Mike Gminski and Gene Banks.
I liked Vince Taylor and Tate Armstrong.
I hate all others.
And the regional is in Raleigh, so they will be close to home again. Probably an easy road to the Sw16.
Sulaiman will start at SG, Parker at SF, Hood at PF, Quinn Cook at PG. K always gets one of his big guy's who has looked like a stiff for the previous year or 2(Ryan Kelly, Brian Zoubek, Miles Plumlee, Lance Thomas) and he ends up being a solid post player for Duke. One of those guys you mentioned(Hairston, Jefferson or Marshall Plumlee) will probably end up doing that next year. They could even go small, play Tyler Thornton at PG and still be able to beat most of the teams they'll play next year. People forget that Duke may lose talented players and look like they will be average for the next season, but most of their players were McDonalds All-Americans and have the ability to play very well at some point.
I wouldn't consider Ryan Kelly a solid post player - his primary threat by far was 3 point shooting. Lance Thomas was a good defender, but he wasn't ever much of an offensive threat. Zoubek and the Plumlees were reasonably effective, but that was primarily as seniors (Mason's junior year was effective as well). It's not like Zoubek or Miles Plumlee were worth very much as sophomores.
But yes, I agree they'll be a pretty good team. We'll see if they're merely a pretty good team or a great team with a chance to actually make a tournament run.
Dennard, the last time I saw him in an interview, STILL denies fouling Buck, and that pr*ck Gminski, whenever he's asked about it, laughs and says, "Hey, if it was a foul it would have been called".
Call me a relic, call me what you will,
Say I'm old-fashioned, say I'm over the hill....
Dennard was interviewed by 105.7 right before the Duke ACC tournament game 2 weeks ago and this was brought up. It was baffling how the local radio station sided with him (whatever show is on before Johnny Holiday-heard it on the way to watch the game). Of course he mentions how much he's hated and the 1980 game being one of his favorite moments. He shared a humorous anecdote about how SVP drunk dialed him with a mutual event after a charity event and left him a voicemail hating him for ruining his childhood (awesome). But then the interviewer goes on to say how everyone forgets that Buck didn't box out Gminski on the tip-in to put Duke ahead and Elmore missed a shot prior. Yes, because the missed foul call would clearly not have been the deciding factor in a 1 point game with the championship on the line. Another reason I hate sports radio in this area-a local Maryland sports station (home of the terps) gives such a conciliatory interview to such a hated rival responsible for one of the most haunting moments in Maryland basketball history RIGHT before the Terps are about to play in such a huge matchup with tournament hopes on the line. Especially since it's not just Maryland fans who claim that Buck was undercut and the foul wasn't called. It's like congratulating Lucifer for a "good shot" right before a future MSU-UMD Big 10 Tournament matchup. Appalling.
The verbal slurping of the goody two shoes Dookies versus those "thugs" in the Fab Five is what made me hate them. I hope Laettner is enjoying a dick wonderfall right about now
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I would like like to hear some of the dookies on this board honestly give their opinion on K's style. He's the best ever and yea they won in 2010 but I feel like there still has to be some frustration with the way he is building teams. Maybe it's just me.
Well, that interviewer should've been called out for thinking Elmore played in that game. In 1980 he had been in the NBA for 6 years.
Albert King missed the shot.
I think he doesn't really build to a specific style or system, because his greatest strength is to take what he has and make the best out of it - both in terms of technical style and motivation.
If he were drafting for an NFL team, he would be the epitome of the "best player available" approach. I think he recruits players that have certain qualities and that he thinks will fit at Duke, and then each year makes the best out of what he has.
The end result is that - in basketball terms - not many of his teams look like each other at all, and the teams often look very different between the beginning and end of the season.
From an overall perspective, he probably leaves something on the table in recruiting. Despite the recent dabbling with Irving and Rivers, he's not getting the same players that Calipari, Calhoun, Roy, Self, etc. are getting overall. He can get a couple exceptions here and there, but he can't fill the team with whomever he wants.
I think his approach fits Duke well - he's maxed out what anyone can do in that environment. With regard to your comment about frustration, I personally would rather see the pendulum swing the other way. For example, I don't want to see Coach K going after more players like Rivers in pursuit of a few more wins. I don't like the idea of one-and-dones in principle - it should be a school that has a basketball team, not a basketball team that has a school. I was OK with Irving, because there was at least the idea he might stay another year, but Rivers was a foregone conclusion, and it felt more cynical the second time in a row.I don't want to see Duke take the Calipari approach.
I respect Calipari and what he's done. He's honest with the players, he puts their professional career ahead of everything else, and he gets the best talent because of it - that's his niche and it's successful. I just don't think that's the right approach for Duke.
If anyone has watched this game (& you can do so at vault.ncaa.com), it's absurd how bad the calls were in that 2nd half. not just the stomp. There's actually one "foul trouble" screen cap w/ like 5 mins left showing 3-4 Kentucky players with 4 fouls and "none" listed under Duke.
Fair enough. Thanks for taking the time
LOL at the "stomp" being a bad call. The refs got that right.
You know how I know? Because the guy that was the "victim" jumps up, then smiles and claps when the ref makes the call. Timberlake was ecstatic that he got the call he did.
Of all the stupid, revisionist propaganda, this is among the dumbest. I get that Maryland fans hate Duke, and I can respect people that just hate them - I have an irrational hate for UNC. However, making up bullshit about what happened 20 years ago makes you look like an idiot.
Do you guys think coach K use just for men?
"Turgeon has 3 key guys on current roster - Allen, Dez, and Jake - that have not improved." -Orioleterp
he got up and started clapping b/c he thought Laettener was getting ejected...
I give up.
Timberlake certainly fucked that up. dook players are smarter than that. Had it happened to one of them, they would have rolled around on the court like they just had their nuts removed with a can opener.
Not back then, thank goodness. FWIW, I hate the flopping as much as anyone.
One of my favorites:
Greg Paulus flops before anyone even gets close to him. (There was no call because they were not ACC refs).
Paulus should have been ejected for that on general principle.
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