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That doesn't seem fair. This year's 2nd rounder for Cleveland is pretty high (#7). Plus the idea is that you are supposed to be "punished" for making the move right now.
Agreed. Maybe without a 2nd they wouldn't be allowed to make a tender offer.
There's no way in shit they're giving up their high 1st.
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There are no kings inside the Gates of Eden."
DP the latest to spew the nonsense that Flacco should have taken less so they could keep Boldin. Yeah, I'm sure Flacco's $6.8M cap hit is the reason they couldn't keep him.
Yeah, if the penalty for not having the 2nd rounder was giving up a first there's no way they do it.
Hell, for them I'm not sure he would have been worth a top 40 2nd round pick. The Bengals 2nd rounder is 18th.
Question. Suppose other moves/cuts are made while Boldin is in Africa. I haven't seen official confirmation by the Ravens or the 49ers. Any chance the trade gets "undone"?
The only way it gets undone at this point is if Boldin fails his physical when he gets back. Otherwise, done deal.
If he fails his physical then we will cut him and lose a 6th rounder.
Bill Barnwell explains with the Harvin/Boldin trades were good for Minn and Baltimore.
On Monday afternoon, two notable wide receivers were dealt away in trades that seemed to make little sense for the organizations who were giving away
this is an excellent point that I had not even considered or heard discussed.
Most significantly, a Ravens trade allowed the organization to dictate where Boldin would play in 2013, which is valuable for a team that still expects to compete in a crowded AFC. Had they let Boldin hit the free market, he could have chosen to sign with an AFC North team and played the Ravens twice this year. He could have joined the Broncos or Texans, both of which have tilts scheduled against the Ravens in 2013. Instead, Baltimore sent him to the other conference and to an organization that they won't play this upcoming season.
Here's one thing worth discussing. Boldin is a very good player, but numerous people have referred to him as a 'possession receiver'. Boldin may be one of the best, but possession receivers just aren't as valuable in today's NFL, kind of like having the best fullback Leach at fullback, but obviously possession receivers are more valuable than fullbacks. If they want to replace him in the draft, they can grab a guy like Quinton Patton, who is a great route runner and makes tough catches, but is only a probable 3rd rounder for a reason. Don't get caught up thinking we are losing a "#1 Receiver". The title has overrated value, like being a "closer" in baseball. Look at the skill set. Boldin can be replaced cheaper than Torrey Smith and other players for us, even though Boldin's role was significant. I won't fully endorse or criticize this move until I see the corresponding transactions, but this move can definitely be justified with later moves
This is a pretty good take by Matt Vensel. He makes a good point that at least by trading him, in addition to getting the pick, the Ravens got to control where he ended up and keep him off another AFC contender.
The Baltimore Ravens made a tough business decision on Monday, dealing veteran wide receiver and playoff hero Anquan Boldin to the San Francisco 49ers for a sixth-round pick after he wouldn't accept a pay cut.
Where were you all season?
Q was just on Mike and Mike. He's still over in Senegal. He seemed genuinely shocked by the move ( which doesn't surprise me, even if he really isn't ). Said he really expected to finish his career in B'more.
I'm still confident Ozzie and company will make it all good. Right now, after losing Ellerbe and Kruger, it's just happening fast.
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