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I think this misses the point in a way. Would women be comfortable showering or changing in a locker room with straight men? Probably many of them wouldn't.
I've seen people say that, really, straight guys are worried that gay men will treat them the way straight men treat women. I think that's right. I think with regards to the locker room concerns, more than bigotry it's straight men projecting they're own behavior on to gay men.
And just to add, I think that men + women locker room scenarios WOULD have worse results than straight men + open gay men locker rooms in reality. I'm just addressing perceptions.
This post was edited by notaterpterp 12 months ago
I realize that but I think a lot of people don't.
I'm not sure that speculating as to someone's sexuality in itself makes you a horrible human being. However, reading an article like that and viewing the subject like the process of outing "moles" in the organization is pretty horrible. It comes down to whether you are implying a negative judgement in identifying someone as gay. If you base your guesses on idiotic stereotypes like whether someone likes museums, whether you mean to or not, you look like a bigot.
Also, LOL at the,"if you're so tolerant, why don't you tolerate intolerance?" argument. It's fair to judge someone negatively when they make openly bigoted remarks.
Back to the original article, I think the idea of multiple players coordinating their announcements is brilliant. The less this is about one player and the more this is about the reality that there are already plenty of gay men playing in the NFL and doing their jobs just fine, the better.
If gay men behaved in public towards straight men the way straight men do towards women, it would make sense for straight men to be uncomfortable in a shower with those gay men. Personally, I could see being uncomfortable jumping in the shower with someone larger than me that kept staring at my body parts and telling me how hot I looked.
However, if someone behaves in a way that you couldn't otherwise determine their orientation, it shouldn't be a problem.
Don't you think that if four veterans actually come out together that it will occur to most of their teammates that they have all been naked in the locker room together already, and none of these guys acted any differently than the straights in there? I think it will be implied that proper and respectful behavior of all parties will be required if our civilization is to move forward with regard to sexuality, civil rights etc.
OTOH, what happens the first time a gay player gets cut or hits free agency? Did he get cut because of the cap, his ability, his teammates inability to tolerate him or just because he couldn't play very well? IDK! But it would be a real good career move for someone in the life and who wants to be known and famous in his/her own community, the LGBT or whatever community. (It reminds me too much of Frank becoming the face of the movement in a recent Shameless episode. Now that was funny.)
One other thought. Locker rooms could have individual shower stalls, and guys could wear robes if need be, but that's too simple. They are there to take a shower after competing in their workplace, and most work places frown on sexual activity on company time regardless of the gender or sexual orientation of the individuals. Just saying. Carry on.
Your first paragraph is the point I was trying to make.
Yes, but if I were showering with Kate Upton naked right next to me, my dong would uncontrollably be a full 4 1/2 inches.
This will result in more dong checking in the shower.
"The biggest losers in life are people correcting message board grammar . Fact not opinion"
So, speaking of Ben Grubbs. A friend who works with Lardarius Webb took me to his charity bowling event a year or two back, it was open bar, tons of hot women, good times all around. I was about to leave with this chick who I met there, so I go to return my shoes and get my jacket and hit the bathroom. I come back, and she comes up to me and says, "Actually, I'm going to leave with him." She points, and it's Ben motherfucking Grubbs, wearing a walking boot and holding a cane. They drove off together, and I'm guessing they didn't go home and compare bowling scores, so if Grubbs is gay, he's REALLY good at hiding it.
I felt like I should have issued an amber alert for myself, just in case
I guess this is why gays are more likely to get AIDS?
Latest update from the wacky world of Mario Balotelli: the striker is set to be fined by AC Milan for having a secret cigarette in the toilet of a train.
They changed the headline, it said he was "smoking a fag" when i linked it.
This post was edited by BrotherAbstract 12 months ago
hey gay-attention whores, NO ONE CARES TWO SHITS about your sexual preference....
I'd be really surprised if this is the case, given the backlash these GM's would face for cutting these guys. If anything, I think they will get special treatment.
What the hey....I'll take a stab at it.
Random Raven scrub (Reid?)
Guessing they are all guys who have ties to the Brendan dude.
I couldn't care any less tho....let these dudes (whoever they are) live.
Who needs to raise a green flag when they can just raise a right fist?
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