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Bryce Harper Era begins!

  • Spike isn't. He's doing the douchebag internet argument thing where you point out ONE time something has happened and go "SEE!?"

    Yeah I'm sure comparing a guy in the 1800s is comparable to the internet age!

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    Hogie ●

  • good comparison... that he only batted .212 over a 14 game stretch in the majors got sent down for a month and came back up and maintained the same avg he had when he got sent down.

    I bet Micky mantle never hit 250 in the minors

    Pic Sigs are for losers.

    jgdomino ●

  • hgoodman said...

    Pretty sure if Spike is on my side of a baseball argument, I've won.

    Pretty sure if you need to say you've won, you probably haven't. Spike is the man though.

    I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

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  • jgdomino said...

    good comparison... that he only batted .212 over a 14 game stretch in the majors got sent down for a month and came back up and maintained the same avg he had when he got sent down.

    I bet Micky mantle never hit 250 in the minors

    Not over a full season, no (I've linked his minor league career totals). However, his AAA career in Kansas City started with only one hit in his first twenty at bats (.050).

    ---

    My position would be, basically, that high-end prospects are all essentially unique and trying to compare them to "typical" prospects is probably pointless. It may be that promoting Harper in this fashion will be a tragic error, but there isn't any real evidence suggesting that will be the case, or is even likely to be the case.

    I've followed his career, just like everyone else, when he was first wowing people as a high schooler, and then his ridiculous JC season. My own sense is that he can handle the situation, and it will help that the manager is clearly a big fan.

    This post was edited by SandlapperSpike on 4/28/2012 at 3:58 PM

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  • BCiB said...

    They lose a year before arbitration though. But if he is hitting .250, keep him in aaa. Wouldn't you rather have him until 27 than 26?

    Super-2 arb essentially doesn't matter with him because he's signed for 4 more years.

    I can't believe any Nats fan would be against this.

    PoorMike

  • SandlapperSpike said...

    Not over a full season, no (I've linked his minor league career totals). However, his AAA career in Kansas City started with only one hit in his first twenty at bats (.050).

    ---

    My position would be, basically, that high-end prospects are all essentially unique and trying to compare them to "typical" prospects is probably pointless. It may be that promoting Harper in this fashion will be a tragic error, but there isn't any real evidence suggesting that will be the case, or is even likely to be the case.

    I've followed his career, just like everyone else, when he was first wowing people as a high schooler, and then his ridiculous JC season. My own sense is that he can handle the situation, and it will help that the manager is clearly a big fan.

    Looks like the Mick had insane #s in the minors the year before he started in the bigs though.

    whatever, I think Harper is can't miss, so it will all be fine. But if the Orioles ever luck out and get the top prospect (like Dylan Bundy next year), I would want them to be as cautious as possible with the development. If the goal is to win now, then sign Bobby Abreu. He can still hit in the NL, though the fielding would be a challenge. If the goal is to develop Harper, leave him in the minors. Seems that the cons outweigh the pros here.

    BCiB

  • Not long ago Cam Newton would have sat on the bench for a few years before he was given a shot ( cross-sport cross- racial comparison FTW). If this screws Harper in the head he was never going to be great anyway. We have nothing to lose.

    BrunoTerp

  • I was actually going to make a Cam Newton comparison. The biggest fluke in sports history was Cam Newton being good. We're basically banking on matching or surpassing that level of fluke.

    Great plan!

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  • BrunoTerp said...

    Not long ago Cam Newton would have sat on the bench for a few years before he was given a shot ( cross-sport cross- racial comparison FTW). If this screws Harper in the head he was never going to be great anyway. We have nothing to lose.

    Proazacly.

    He'd have to be b!tchmade for this to shake him (no matter how these two weeks turns out).

    He'll be fine.

    BTW, game will be on MLBN for those out of the urea.

    PoorMike

  • Hogie said...

    I was actually going to make a Cam Newton comparison. The biggest fluke in sports history was Cam Newton being good. We're basically banking on matching or surpassing that level of fluke.

    Great plan!

    Mike Piazza was a fluke. If Joe Flacco's brother became an all star with the Orioles, that would be a fluke. #1 pick a fluke?.....

    PoorMike

  • hgoodman said...

    The latest trend is to just sign them to extensions before they hit arbitration anyway.

    Whatever, I've said my piece. I like it.

    If there has ever been a player destined to leave in FA, its Harper. Kid will start negotiating with the Yankees once he hits Arb-2 status. You could re-name Nats Park "Bryce 'God' Harper Stadium" after he wins 5 MVPs and wins 6 WS titles and he would leave. I would have kept him down until this time next year. And I don't even like playing these kinds of games with top prospects. With a guy like Harper, you could very well be talking about a 0WAR season this year instead of an MVP season on a leading WS contender.

    I'm glad he isn't being held down though, because now the O's can have the #1 and #2 prospects in baseball to start next year.

    Titanterp ●

  • I don't care what anyone tries to say. There is literally no way to tell if a young baseball player will be good or not.

    "I suffered through the Boller years and nearly a decade of offensive futility." -Bmorechil

    ccterp ●

  • Titan has the right idea. Unless you are absolutely sure (which I don't know how anyone can be), you'd rather have 27 year old Bryce Harper than 19 year old Bryce Harper.

    My feeling is that the hot start got in the head of the FO. Let him sort it out in the minors while the team is still developing other players. The plan wasn't to win in 2012.

    balderdash

    ZackGreinkeTerp

  • Because he was in the minors til April 20, he's still under club control for the same length of time right? He just hits arbitration a year earlier.

    theaman ●

  • theaman said...

    Because he was in the minors til April 20, he's still under club control for the same length of time right? He just hits arbitration a year earlier.

    He's signed through 2015. It essentially won't matter for arbitration either.

    PoorMike

  • Anyways, I hope he does well. I think he'll be a star.

    balderdash

    ZackGreinkeTerp

  • He won't be a star. He'll be Giancarlo Stanton at best.

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    Hogie ●

  • ZackGreinkeTerp said...

    Titan has the right idea. Unless you are absolutely sure (which I don't know how anyone can be), you'd rather have 27 year old Bryce Harper than 19 year old Bryce Harper.

    My feeling is that the hot start got in the head of the FO. Let him sort it out in the minors while the team is still developing other players. The plan wasn't to win in 2012.

    This is a great thread. The Nationals play well for three weeks and suddenly Harper needs to be up so they can win now? Despite not showing he can hit AA or AAA pitching yet? This team is not going to hit enough to contend for a playoff spot, and Harper being league average (best case scenario) is not changing that.

    Tabe

  • League average is better than the combined .090 that the batters playing left field this season are hitting. I don't think they should've called him up either, but saying he won't help the team is absurd.

    theaman ●

  • There was definitely a good chance that the Nationals options were guys who hit .090 all season and calling up Bryce Harper.

    Tabe

  • Hogie said...

    He won't be a star. He'll be Giancarlo Stanton at best.

    lol

    screamin_jay ●

  • Tabe said...

    There was definitely a good chance that the Nationals options were guys who hit .090 all season and calling up Bryce Harper.

    Like I said, I don't agree with it, I would've called up Moore and let him figure out left field on the fly. But saying he won't help the team is just wrong.

    theaman ●

  • If he even reaches base tonight, that's a much much more impressive debut than what Strasburg did.

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    Hogie ●

  • What the hell is that hairdo.

    sugarmag ●

  • Loved the hustle. Would have been a funny first ML hit

    7erps

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