General Sports Water Cooler

Yeah. I mean, the ACC has made more money on TV contracts than the B12 up until this past week when they renegotiated their TV deal. The ACC gets better ratings and has better markets.

Look at it this way, we were only allowed to negotiate with ESPN and still pulled down almost equal money as the B12 and that's with FSU/Miami crapping the bed and basketball being down the past few years.

Dont forget WVU!

$4-$5M more in rights fees (assuming big 12 pays more with FSU), plus more potentially (debatable how much, but let's say $2M more) in Tier 3 football fees is more than a few million annually when you have long term. Yeah, its just a redneck blowhard, but is he still the friggin chairman so he carries some weight. You guys owe Nola an apology.

David Teel ‏ @DavidTeelatDP

Noles beat writer. MT @Corey_Clark: Think it's unfair for anyone at FSU to complain about deal. And unfair for people to blame FSU for deal.

It's a chairman whose term expires after the next BOT meeting. This is just some old senile guy venting when he knows he has no pull anymore.

I said it was a longshot-and that hasnt changed. FSU will consider the financial ramifications of the move. Maryland, clemson will as well. Due diligence requires it. That way when you say no you know you made the right decision.

IMHO the only way FSU leaves is if the Big 12 package-which still hasnt been inked, though there is a verbal agreement-was a smokescreen. I dont believe that it was. So instead of 20 per team, the big 12 comes back at 22, and has a clause for 30 with the right 2 teams-or 4 teams.

That is a farfetched scenario though because it implies ESPN has an interest in seeing 2-4 ACC teams bolt to the Big 12 and would bankroll it. Frank the Tank has said some stupid stuff, but he is correct that ESPN owns the ACC. Unless ESPN only wants the ACC for hoops, and wants a football conference to rival CBS/SEC it isnt happening.

But dont discount the chairman of the BOT as a blowhard. That would be someone on a message board. That was a calculated signal-not to the Big 12 that we are coming, but to tobacco road that we are your daddy and it is time for you to acknowledge it and fork over more money. Ive said all along FSU will parlay this Big 12 "interest" into more money from the ACC.

Ohhh, the ironing unkind! Nola playing the nylon song!

I mean the Pac 12 just turned down getting BOTH Texas and Oklahoma because of the turd community colleges they'd have to bring with them and Nebraska almost lost it's spot in the B10 because it was kicked out of the AAU, yet someone in a position of authority actually attempted to say academics don't matter.

Not a chance in hell that the ACC will move away from an equal revenue distribution model.

To me there are three things that lead to conference stability: 1. Equal revenue sharing, 2. Full membership of all sports, and 3. Some sort of geographic alignment that makes sense.

I know I say this a lot, but you have ABSOLUTELY no idea what you're talking about here. There is zero chance of Maryland ever being in the Big XII. None. Less than zero, actually. We would not even consider it at the current revenue disparity. If Clemson and Florida State left, we would stay put. Any other scenario with more teams leaving implies the SEC going to 16 or the Big XII going past 14. In which case, the Big Ten would clearly not stay at 12 and allow those leagues to pick off teams attractive to them. Maryland would have a Big Ten invite in that scenario. Furthermore, Maryland has academic aspirations which are FAR too ambitious to ever play in a league where only one of the schools is considered to be in the same or higher tier academically. It's just never, ever, ever, ever going to happen.

Ordinarily I'd say someone who followed conference movement to this extent that would even think MD to the B12 was a possibility was trolling, but in this case I'm not sure.