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Walking Dead....

  • Gumbercules said...

    The writer talked about this and kind of laughed at off and said "the zombies aren't bloodhounds." He said they wouldn't seek people out by smell, but if they were intermingling, then they would pick up on it.

    yeah i think he explained it well in that AOTS interview.

    AlphaOmega ●

  • strOterp said...

    So last season they covered themselves in zombie guts so they wouldn't be smelled, but now they can just hide under cars and the zombies don't notice them?

    A little different situation, because they had to walk past the zombies. This time, they were just laying there.

    I don't think the zombies can smell the living. It's not like humans have that sensitive noses--and the brainstem is merely reactivated, it's not like they are receiving supernatural powers. IMO, the idea was more for them to blend in among the zombies in that season 1 ep. This time, they were just blending in among the corpses... a pile of bodies with the smell of rotting flesh coming from it wouldn't be noteworthy to the walker horde.

    My real problem with that ep was the zombie who came after Andrea seemed incredibly sentient, but I just chalked it up to bad "zombie acting." I also hated Andrea being so goddamn stupid to try and put the gun back together (when Shane hadn't taught her to do yet, so why would she even think she could do it correctly). Although I guess it was somewhat explainable in that she's kinda suicidal right now... she might've welcomed a situation where a gunshot would've brought the whole herd down on her. Still, it didn't jive with her wanting to die on her own terms.

    HooEver

  • Yeah, the zombies not smelling them didn't really bother me-- the zombies hadn't seen them, it was an obstacle course of cars, gas, corpses, etc that there were competing smells, etc.

    Old dude on top of the camper with the binocs... I mean, wtf is the point of having a look-out if he doesn't actually provide notice of the horde to the rest of the people and they don't have any kind of action plan. Old dude needs to step up his game.

    MisterSmiley ●

  • naegeleterp said...

    Also the blonde lady who is always complaining about her gun really annoys the hell outta me.

    Not a criticism, but do you understand/remember why? I'd be pretty annoyed/pissed too if the old man (who isn't a spouse/parent/relative) emotionally blackmailed me into leaving the CDC when I had decided to die on my own terms, then patronized me afterwards by making sure everyone kept the sharp objects/firearms away from me.

    So her character doesn't bother me. T-bone and Dale are the ones I find annoying.

    HooEver

  • MisterSmiley said...

    Yeah, the zombies not smelling them didn't really bother me-- the zombies hadn't seen them, it was an obstacle course of cars, gas, corpses, etc that there were competing smells, etc.

    Old dude on top of the camper with the binocs... I mean, wtf is the point of having a look-out if he doesn't actually provide notice of the horde to the rest of the people and they don't have any kind of action plan. Old dude needs to step up his game.

    I assumed Dale had just been looking the wrong way the whole time, but yeah that was absolutely wretched.

    Character issues aside, the real problem was that the overhead shot was just set up poorly. Unless Rick's scope has worse zoom than my cameraphone, the zombies should have been at least a couple hundred feet away. Instead, they were like three car lengths away. Still, that was the only glitch on an otherwise incredibly awesome job by the director on that sequence.

    This post was edited by HooEver on 10/19/2011 at 11:05 AM

    HooEver

  • Yeah, it was a little ridiculous that the old guy had binoculars on a huge stretch of interstate but couldn't see a group of 100 zombies until they were ~50 yards away. He could have seen them a mile away.

    strOterp ●

  • strOterp said...

    Yeah, it was a little ridiculous that the old guy had binoculars on a huge stretch of interstate but couldn't see a group of 100 zombies until they were ~50 yards away. He could have seen them a mile away.

    Maybe he's been hiding the fact that he has glaucoma. "On the next, very special Walking Dead, Dale comes to terms with his aging..."

    Gumbercules

  • Dale seemed pretty salty, it was a big change in his character from the first season. Last season he always seemed to be upbeat and snarky, he was bitching about everything and at everyone in the first episode of this season. I guess its just representative of how much stress they're under.

    neal990 ●

  • Dale never looked behind him, he was always looking forward towards the route ahead. The zombies came from behind where they had already drove through. I guess he didn't think anything would come up from behind but I guess they came through the woods and onto the highway.

    naegeleterp ●

  • Liked the Revelation reference on the church sign outside when they went in.

    Rev 16:17

    Particularly appropriate, and a nice little visual easter egg.

    "And I try to har-mo-nize with songs the lonesome sparrow sings... There are no kings inside the Gates of Eden."

    dixonownsyou ●

  • dixonownsyou said...

    Liked the Revelation reference on the church sign outside when they went in.

    Rev 16:17

    Particularly appropriate, and a nice little visual easter egg.

    I thought it was pretty spooky too to have them find 3 random walkers in the church seated in the pews.

    gmanterps

  • Yeah that was really creepy, and they were particularly creepy looking walkers too

    neal990 ●

  • bkmalik said...

    Suspension of disbelief. Just roll with it.

    But I believe the "explanation" is that the zombies see the movement and then use smell to determine if whatever is dead or not. So if they don't see you they don't come after you.

    And the real answer is "if everyone gets found and eaten the show ends, so they have to come up with ways to have close calls"

    They're the evil fuckers who are preventing a zombie society from happening, BY KILLING ZOMBIES. The show should be about zombies working together to create that brave new world, kind of like the book version of I Am Legend.

    SATerp ●

  • I've watched Season 1 and the S2 premiere and one thing has been bugging me. It's almost as if no one has ever seen a zombie movie or even heard of a zombie before the zombiepocalypse. That they had to have a CDC scientist explain that the higher brain functions are turned off while motor skills and hunger are reactivated just seemed wildly simplistic. Every US citizen would know a zombie if they saw one, would know that you have to kill them by disabling their head, and they wouldn't call them "walkers."
    Maybe this is explained better in the graphic novels?

    ravenlunatic ●

  • I think it is a rule that in zombie movies no one has ever seen a zombie movie

    neal990 ●

  • ravenlunatic said...

    I've watched Season 1 and the S2 premiere and one thing has been bugging me. It's almost as if no one has ever seen a zombie movie or even heard of a zombie before the zombiepocalypse. That they had to have a CDC scientist explain that the higher brain functions are turned off while motor skills and hunger are reactivated just seemed wildly simplistic. Every US citizen would know a zombie if they saw one, would know that you have to kill them by disabling their head, and they wouldn't call them "walkers."
    Maybe this is explained better in the graphic novels?

    They're from the South.

    MisterSmiley ●

  • ravenlunatic said...

    I've watched Season 1 and the S2 premiere and one thing has been bugging me. It's almost as if no one has ever seen a zombie movie or even heard of a zombie before the zombiepocalypse. That they had to have a CDC scientist explain that the higher brain functions are turned off while motor skills and hunger are reactivated just seemed wildly simplistic. Every US citizen would know a zombie if they saw one, would know that you have to kill them by disabling their head, and they wouldn't call them "walkers." Maybe this is explained better in the graphic novels?

    I thought it was more a mechanism to bring in the pathos of the scientist's wife turning into one.

    And no it isn't explained AT ALL in the graphic novels. It just happens. There IS a kind of a 'wild hare' explanation in Issue 75, but it's not actually part of the series.

    SATerp ●

  • Best show on TV and it's not even close

    This post was edited by oomah on 10/21/2011 at 8:46 AM

    oomah

  • |3oomah said...

    Best show on TV and it's not even close

    I love this show but I still think "Justified" is just a little better.

    terpfan1 ●

  • MisterSmiley said...

    Spears and crossbows, bitches, spears and crossbows.

    Don't sleep on Halberds.

    And Pollaxe's, a nice Pollaxe would come in handy. Or, perhaps a glaive. Yes, a glaive would do nicely.

    terpinnyc

  • AMC is really doing a great job turning out great tv without the ability to show or say what they want like Showtime or HBO.

    The Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, Mad Men.....The Killing? eh, I'm on the fence on that one

    There is a new western coming this winter as well.

    naegeleterp ●

  • Clearly neither of you watch enough good television. (coming from a fan of TWD)

    WheresWallace

  • SATerp said...

    They're the evil fuckers who are preventing a zombie society from happening, BY KILLING ZOMBIES. The show should be about zombies working together to create that brave new world, kind of like the book version of I Am Legend.

    So to tie into another thread, the Zombies are the 99%!

    interpid

  • ravenlunatic said...

    I've watched Season 1 and the S2 premiere and one thing has been bugging me. It's almost as if no one has ever seen a zombie movie or even heard of a zombie before the zombiepocalypse. That they had to have a CDC scientist explain that the higher brain functions are turned off while motor skills and hunger are reactivated just seemed wildly simplistic. Every US citizen would know a zombie if they saw one, would know that you have to kill them by disabling their head, and they wouldn't call them "walkers." Maybe this is explained better in the graphic novels?

    am i unamerican for having missed every zombie show until this one? anyway, i guess i am the lone viewer grateful for the explanation

    this show needs a hot chick or two btw - i recommend the bad guys daughter from s2 of soa; watching her cleavage hide from zombie herds sounds entertaining to me

    winterps ●

  • winterps said...

    am i unamerican for having missed every zombie show until this one? anyway, i guess i am the lone viewer grateful for the explanation

    this show needs a hot chick or two btw - i recommend the bad guys daughter from s2 of soa; watching her cleavage hide from zombie herds sounds entertaining to me

    you are aware that there are zombie movies, and you know what zombies look like and how to kill them and to even call them zombies, correct? That's all I was getting at. I think Neal's explanation to this makes the most sense.

    ravenlunatic ●

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