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When I purchased my XDm .45 (avatar) online, the print shells were provided and sent by Springfield via my FFL Bart's without my knowledge or interaction. The in-barrel lock was required to be sold to me, but when I picked the gun up from Bart's, it was uninstalled and included with the accessories, although they made a point of demonstrating to me how I was to install it.

I guess it comes down to how customer-driven the manufacturer, the online company, and your FFL. You can save a few bucks anywhere along the way but it can sure be a PITA, and you often don't find out until you've already made the purchase, so read up on your state requirements before you buy and if in doubt, ask your FFL before you buy. I've had great experience with Bud's and Tombstone Tactical online, and Bart's as FFL. The $50 I didn't save was well worth the ease of these transactions.

Yeah they usually do the shell thing before you buy it, and Maryland law requires you to leave the gun shop with an internal lock inside the gun.

I don't want to spend the money right now since need to do something car wise but probably going to pick something up again around summer time...maybe sks or something like it. Bought a G17 beginning on this year

Yeah they may have let you leave without it but I'm almost positive Maryland law says it has to be in there when you leave the store. It is that little Omega lock you put in unless the gun has some type of internal locking system already

Once you own one you can use it again also or just borrow someones

Thanks for the help, guys...and I'm tempted to just write the Anglers guy off as being douchey and difficult, and going with another FFL place.

Doesn't Anglers also have a window that you can drive up to to buy beer, or is that some other rinky dink place along Rt. 50 around there.

Maybe that's the one I'm thinking of.

Stock up on hollow points

Now that's a versatile gun for self defense. I'd go with 3 of the .410 cartridges and step it up with the last 3 rounds. If the first 3 shots hasn't taken them out or scared them off, I'm shooting to kill with the last 3.

The opinion of this gun on my gun forum is pretty evenly divided. Half see it as a gimmick gun that does nothing very well marketed for newbs looking to purchase versatility, and the other half see some utility in it. I'm still undecided.

Oh, and WTF, I think your XDm.45 is the best looking hand gun in this thread. I like the looks of it over the Desert Eagle, Glock and the gun frode just bought.

I don't think that's the case, I just think that the average poster owns at least 8 guns and thousands of ammo rounds, and there's always a better tool for them. If you need the shotgun, grab the shotgun, if you need the 04, grab the 04.... you get the picture.

To me, that Judge makes great sense for someone buying their first gun for self-protection, it makes no sense whatsoever for the guy that already owns 2 shotguns, 3 handguns, a hunting rifle, an AK and a built AR.

oh yeah came with 3 different size backstraps. Look it up Eli, this might be the handgun for you. aval in 9, 40 and 45 subcompact, compact and full size.

Now that is funny.