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That sucks, those four shows will siphon viewers away from each other. Agree with whoever said it'd be nice to see the ABC shows get to keep following Modern Family, ABC must have a new pet they're sticking in that slot.

Well, so far as lead-ins go (not really sure that matters anymore), Happy Endings/Apt 23 will follow Dancing with the Stars (highly rated), the Fox comedies will follow Raising Hope (low rated) and a new comedy called Ben and Kate.

So ABC definitely wins the lead-in battle.

Tobey really sucked as a show runner but I liked where they left things at the end of this season and I think it could have set up a pretty solid fareware year. Especially with Daniels back on board.

CBS's Fall Schedule: http://www.hitfix.com/articles/cbs-sets-its-2012-13-fall-schedule

I don't watch any of these shows but in case anyone else does -- Two and a Half Men to Thursday at 8:30 and The Mentalist to Sunday's at 10. The only pilot that looks interesting (to me) is Vegas -- period drama starring Dennis Quaid and Michael Chiklis.

CBS definitely keeps going to the well once they determine a certain actor should be "a TV star." The lead guys from the Mentalist and Hawaii 5-0 both had multiple failed shows before their current ones finally stuck.

That's really the main reason I've been hanging on. I know they can put together some great episodes when they need to, so I know The Office will finish strong and I want to stick with it for that. But if it keeps getting renewed and putting off the end I might have to check out.

Pop-Pop and Boom! Dan Harmon will not be returning as showrunner of NBC's Community, and whether he'll remain involved at all with the series he created at remains very much in doubt. Sony Pictures Television, which produces the series with Universal Television, has closed a deal with Happy Endings writers David Guarascio and Moses Port to join Community as showrunners and exec producers.

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Vulture hears that now that Sony made its deal with Guarascio and Port, it plans to ask Harmon to remain involved as a writer and consultant -- but not as the person in charge of the show. (He's expected to remain a "consulting producer" no matter what). Given Sony's decision to make a deal for Harmon's replacement without telling Harmon directly, it seems a longshot that Harmon will agree to a diminished role.

Probably a decent analogy for what will likely happen here. WW was still watchable the last few seasons, but felt watered down and not nearly the same quality as the Sorkin years.

So does that mean that both Community and Happy Endings are going to get worse? Awesome. Monday's news- Jay Leno joins the writing team on Parks and Rec.

I don't know......the trailer seems to be all different kinds of awful to me. It's at least enough to cause me to pass until somebody else can tell me if it's worthwhile.

Definitely agree. I watch almost anything he´s in. Really enjoyed Reaper.

Ken Levine, who has worked on shows like MASH, Simpsons, Cheers, Everybody Loves Raymond (as well as being a play-by-play guy for the O's in 1991) weighs in on Harmon-gate.

For a network to fire a showrunner, his behavior had to be pretty unruly. The network weighs the value of his contribution with the nightmare of dealing with him and must decide if he’s worth it. Dan Harmon apparently wasn’t worth it.

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From what I’ve heard second-hand, Dan Harmon was very erratic. There are horror stories of 24-hour writing sessions. A number of writers have supposedly run screaming from the show. So if these stories are true (and I have no proof that they are), it’s not just NBC that has problems dealing with him.

The Chevy Chase incident. Forget who said what to whom and who was an asshole and who was a bigger asshole – the fracas never should have gone public. And it was Harmon who spilled the beans by airing his dirty laundry during a stand-up routine. Networks frown on this.

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And finally, I worry that Dan going public with this will ultimately hurt him. Other networks might put him in the “too much trouble” bin. He’s a talented guy but he’s yet to create FRIENDS. And I wonder, is this worth it? Besides getting all this stuff off his chest, what is the upside of going worldwide with this feud? Yes, your fanboys rally around you and you’re a media martyr, but they’re not the people who can say “yes” to your next project. They can’t make the decisions that will shape your career.

Ultimately, I wish Dan Harmon well. I hope I’m wrong. I hope two networks are lining up to get his next project. And I’m very sorry he got fired, if for no other reason than it must make Chevy Chase really happy. That really pisses me off.