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  • word... thanks!

    lazy

  • theaman said...

    My friend keeps raving about Delaware Park, I may have to make the trip at some point.

    I love Delaware park, very well run.
    It has a decent $4+1 rake. You just have to beat the crowd there.

    How is Charlestown? I have stayed away because of the timed rake. I stick to 1/2 nl. So I assume the $12/hour rake would kill me. But perhaps the bad players make up for it. Are they still crazy busy there? Is it open 24/7 yet? What's the normal wait time? I heard the dealers are super slow which would irritate me while paying a timed rake.

    edwurtle

  • I don't understand why people complain about timed rake. If you are getting 12 hands per down at a $5 rake per hand, that's $60 off the table every half hour. That's the same $60 that comes off the table with $6 per player per half hour. Granted, the max rake won't be taken every hand, but most dealers also are closer to 15-18 hands per half hour too. The difference is negligible imo.

    Not to mention that every time I've ever played with a timed rake (granted this is only in AC), the players were all eager to do a time pot. Many players, even at higher limits, don't make any strategy adjustments whatsoever for a time pot hand, so it was pretty easy to implement a different strategy for those instances that would gain an extra edge.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by UMTerp on 11/7/2010 at 6:21 PM

    UMTerp

  • has anyone been to the dover downs poker room?

    lazy

  • Does Charlestown take a jackpot drop? If so, is that apart of timed rake or do the drop a buck every hand?

    What do you mean by "timed pot" hand? Is that the last hand before rake is dropped? How is it any different from normal hand?

    So I take that you like Charlestown?

    edwurtle

  • Delaware park is $4 per hand not 5. Of course there's the crap bad beat drop on top of that.

    edwurtle

  • I haven't been to dover downs yet. My cousin raves about the casino but he doesn't play poker. I heard it's a 4+1 rake there.

    I bet the action is awesome during a NASCAR event there.

    On a side note, Harrington poker room is total crap.

    edwurtle

  • i'm jgdomino on pokerstars as well. so if your at my table say whats up

    Pic Sigs are for losers.

    jgdomino

  • I'm Jmanslow as well.

    http://www.ghitp.wordpress.com/

    JManslow

  • God that sucked 40 minutes and the best hand i get is KJ. Hate pokerstars some nights. Some seats have golden horseshoes others are just destined to lose no matter what

    Pic Sigs are for losers.

    jgdomino

  • Yeah, I'm going to be out soon. Best hand I've played was As10s and I only won the blinds with HC A.

    http://www.ghitp.wordpress.com/

    JManslow

  • yea i was really hoping i'd get moved tables but no such luck

    Pic Sigs are for losers.

    jgdomino

  • ive got ~9500 and catching a few hands here and there

    lazy

  • got it allin with KK on a rag flop. two guys call with flush draws, gg me. would have put me at ~40k.

    This post was edited by lazy on 11/7/2010 at 7:57 PM

    lazy

  • I have just been skating by, I've got 5K, but the hands I've been seeing have gotten slightly better.

    http://www.ghitp.wordpress.com/

    JManslow

  • Good news or doesn't matter?

    Harry Reid tries to add online poker to tax bill - Kenneth P. Vogel and Manu Raju - POLITICO.com

    He's trying to add a gambling measure to the deal Obama brokered with the GOP.

    www.politico.com

    sniper_terp

  • Pointless to keep track as of now imo. Latest news is it wasn't getting added in

    Canyonerooooo

  • no jackpot at Charlestown. full of fish go play 2/5

    MJ6964

  • sniper_terp said...

    Good news or doesn't matter?

    Gambling measure will never fly but good man for trying, IMO...

    brothermouzone

  • I've started to have pretty regular success playing poker. I've made over 2 grand this summer and am considering stepping up to the 2/4 game.

    How different is it? Is the caliber of people playing that much better? or is it just still dumb people, just with more money to burn?

    I just embarrassed myself with this post

    HamsterHuey

  • I usually do a lot better at 2/4 then 1/2 but I just don't usually have the money to burn if need be. 2/4 I found to be easier for my bluffs to push out people playing crap but I usually ended up with more aggressive play but I don't know I've seen it play out a bunch of different ways. One difference I liked is usually with a raise I would end up with very few people in a hand and not everyone trying to play anything

    jt082005

  • Do you mean 2/5?

    It's going to be a bit different. Easier to bluff but still very rarely needed. 1/2 is so simple, just have to be patient and rarely bluff only against the rare bluffable player. 2/5 has less dead money in play.

    In response to other post above, If you ever think that "players are to dumb" for you to beat, then you are just playing bad poker. Moving up could sometimes help these players because now you can bluff. But if you can't adjust to bad players then you need to learn how to adjust in general to improve your game in the long run. Bad players will be every where. Learn how to beat them.

    edwurtle

  • edwurtle said...

    In response to other post above, If you ever think that "players are to dumb" for you to beat, then you are just playing bad poker. Moving up could sometimes help these players because now you can bluff. But if you can't adjust to bad players then you need to learn how to adjust in general to improve your game in the long run. Bad players will be every where. Learn how to beat them.

    I wouldn't say that it's they are too dumb to beat, but more or less that they are too dumb for you to be able to determine the optimal line a lot of the time. They don't understand things such as relative hand strength which often times either makes you either miss out on value or value town yourself. I've seen awful players confidently value bet a flush on a double paired board and I've also seen players not raise the 2nd nut flush after they backdoored it on unpaired boards. These things always make playing against really terrible people tricky, but tricky in the sense that they are so bad that you aren't quite sure if you should bet, raise, call, or fold in certain spots.

    RealityGlitch

  • My question basically is - can I play my same game and still be successful?

    I'm a pretty tight player, so I generally feel like I could do well regardless of which limits I play

    I just embarrassed myself with this post

    HamsterHuey

  • RealityGlitch said...

    I wouldn't say that it's they are too dumb to beat, but more or less that they are too dumb for you to be able to determine the optimal line a lot of the time. They don't understand things such as relative hand strength which often times either makes you either miss out on value or value town yourself. I've seen awful players confidently value bet a flush on a double paired board and I've also seen players not raise the 2nd nut flush after they backdoored it on unpaired boards. These things always make playing against really terrible people tricky, but tricky in the sense that they are so bad that you aren't quite sure if you should bet, raise, call, or fold in certain spots.

    I don't know how many of you were around when I won a freeroll tourney at the Sands (RIP) in AC, but this was the exact scenario.

    The Sands would hold a monthly (I think it was monthly) freeroll tournament for slot players. It was a vehicle to get them in the casino. Only the final table cashed 9-3 getting $1K, 2nd getting $2.5K and 1st $15K. The one I was in had about 250 players. I lucked into an invite.

    The challenge was that no one knew the value of a hand. All raises were called by multiple players. You also couldn't get a read on their hand strength because they viewed many marginal hands as strong (A/9, KJ). You couldn't be aggressive unless you had cards. There was only one way to play it. Wait for premium hands and bet big.

    Point is, in this case, in a room full of awful players you couldn't "outplay" them (to an extent). You had to catch cards to win.

    UMClassof90