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Supreme Court rejects death row inmate Troy Davis' petition

  • Mr. Tiffles said...

    rthhokie is a racist conservative who lives in NOVA, I know his bread and butter type.

    Easy with that calling me racist crap.

    rthhokie92

  • A couple weeks old, but this article is eye-opening, and really, really disturbing

    Edit: I'm an idiot, article was from 2009

    This post was edited by DBlockTerp on 9/21/2011 at 10:13 PM

    Why It's Constitutional to Execute an Innocent Man - The Daily Beast

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/09/02/innocent-until-executed.html

    www.thedailybeast.com

    I felt like I should have issued an amber alert for myself, just in case

    DBlockTerp

  • rthhokie92 said...

    He was convicted on other things besides eyewitness testimony....shell casings matching another crime he committed for instance.

    That crime happened earlier in the night right? And he was only connected to that crime by one of the witnesses who has recanted their story? Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Baldwin

  • It did happen earlier.....and it was based on more that that. Read the actual opinions....not the articles.

    Judge wIlliam Moore.....appointed by Bill Clinton no less (no known for appointing right wingers) said the following

    U.S. District Judge William T. Moore Jr. said the evidence presented by Davis' attorneys at a June hearing wasn't nearly strong enough to prove he's innocent.
    "Ultimately, while Mr. Davis's new evidence casts some additional, minimal doubt on his conviction, it is largely smoke and mirrors," the judge said.

    rthhokie92

  • DBlockTerp said...

    A couple weeks old, but this article is eye-opening, and really, really disturbing

    It's actually a couple years old,,,,,not weeks and is not accurate. After that article was written..he did get another hearing to prove his actual innocence. (what that author was advocating)

    rthhokie92

  • rthhokie92 said...

    Interesting to note the white supremist who dragged and killed Byrd was put to death to ight by Texas.

    I don't think he should have been put to death either. Or any of the other 230+ people they've put to death there in recent years.

    I have no moral opposition to the death penalty. It's not even about this case specifically. I just have no faith in the system to get it right 100% of the time, and that's the ONLY acceptable success rate.

    I felt like I should have issued an amber alert for myself, just in case

    DBlockTerp

  • I'm sure there are law-talking reasons for this, but it seems pretty stupid that in order to get the death penalty, the defense has the burden of proof, but in order to reverse it, the condemned has to prove innocence, which isn't a requirement anywhere else in the criminal justice system. I mean, no reasonable person could conclude at this juncture that it's beyond a shadow of a doubt that Davis committed the murder, but he's still going to die/might already be dead. Sweet system.

    aschaefe

  • rthhokie92 said...

    It's actually a couple years old,,,,,not weeks and is not accurate. After that article was written..he did get another hearing to prove his actual innocence. (what that author was advocating)

    Shit, I saw Sept 2nd and didn't look at the year. My fault.

    I know it was the dissenting opinion, but it's really disturbing that there are actually people like this out there, let alone a Supreme Court justice:
    "[T]his court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent."

    I felt like I should have issued an amber alert for myself, just in case

    DBlockTerp

  • rthhokie92 said...
    U.S. District Judge William T. Moore Jr. said the evidence presented by Davis' attorneys at a June hearing wasn't nearly strong enough to prove he's innocent. "Ultimately, while Mr. Davis's new evidence casts some additional, minimal doubt on his conviction, it is largely smoke and mirrors," the judge said.

    So I guess the question is, should we be executing people when there is any doubt, even "additional, minimal doubt"

    I felt like I should have issued an amber alert for myself, just in case

    DBlockTerp

  • If you are really interested....and not in spin. Read Judge Moore's actual opinion. It's a 172 pages.....but it lays out the whole story and evidence.

    As I said....judge Moore is a Clinton appointee. This guy has had multiple days Iin court. If you actually read the procedural record......it's a little different.

    rthhokie92

  • rthhokie92 said...

    It did happen earlier.....and it was based on more that that. Read the actual opinions....not the articles.

    Like what? To me it sounds like one crime happened and the suspect was identified as a black man wearing a white shirt and blue shorts. Then a second crime happened with the same weapon and the same suspect. Of the 9 people who said Davis was the black man in the white shirt and blue shorts, 7 said they don't believe it was him and were pressured by police to say otherwise?

    Thanks for the discussion, this is exactly what I was hoping for. And for what it's worth, I swore the West Memphis 3 were guilty before the DNA evidence came out, so I'm not one of those bleeding hearts who think everyone is being screwed over. This case just seems to be lacking in evidence and I want to know more.

    Baldwin

  • rthhokie92 said...

    Easy with that calling me racist crap.

    Sorry

    Mr Tiffles7673

  • I'll preface this by saying that I'm as anti-death penalty as they come come, so this really upsets me regardless of whether or not he did it. I just think we as a society have in just about every other aspect of punishment moved beyond the idea that justice is extracted through the blood of the one who has wronged you. I just hope that one day we will outlaw this barbaric practice.

    dcterp1

  • Executed at 11:08

    I felt like I should have issued an amber alert for myself, just in case

    DBlockTerp

  • Bigger Media Spin Injustice (and Facebook/Twitter Fun): Casey Anthony's innocence or Troy Davis' execution?

    This post was edited by RaiseHigh on 9/21/2011 at 10:37 PM

    "It's just so hard," Greivis said. "It's my heart, my love. Maryland made me who I am."

    RaiseHigh

  • RHTB&G said...

    Bigger Media Spin Injustice (and Facebook/Twitter Fun): Casey Anthony's innocence or Troy Davis' execution?

    I actually tried to watch a bit of Nancy Grace tonight to see her reaction to this, but I couldn't make it more than 30 seconds. As for social media, depends entirely on race.

    I felt like I should have issued an amber alert for myself, just in case

    DBlockTerp

  • RHTB&G said...

    Bigger Media Spin Injustice: Casey Anthony's innocence or Troy Davis' execution?

    I thought about the media parallels with these two also... but in regards to how much these two cases have made me hate twitter... everyone turns into a legal expert

    terpsnskins

  • Baldwin said...

    Like what? To me it sounds like one crime happened and the suspect was identified as a black man wearing a white shirt and blue shorts. Then a second crime happened with the same weapon and the same suspect. Of the 9 people who said Davis was the black man in the white shirt and blue shorts, 7 said they don't believe it was him and were pressured by police to say otherwise?

    Thanks for the discussion, this is exactly what I was hoping for. And for what it's worth, I swore the West Memphis 3 were guilty before the DNA evidence came out, so I'm not one of those bleeding hearts who think everyone is being screwed over. This case just seems to be lacking in evidence and I want to know more.

    The 7 of 9 is simply not accurate when examined to the light of day

    http://www.scotusblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Troy-Davis-ruling-DCt-Part-II-8-24-10.pdf

    Go to page 149. See the summary. In short....the 7 of 9 is not what you say it is.....some of the recantation. Was to minor minor stuff. Most didn't say the police coerced them. As I said....read what a judge said......not the lazy reporter who is quoting amnesty international

    rthhokie92

  • Here is part one if you want to read the whole thing.

    http://www.scotusblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Troy-Davis-ruling-DCt-Part-I-8-24-10.pdf

    rthhokie92

  • terpsnskins said...

    I thought about the media parallels with these two also... but in regards to how much these two cases have made me hate twitter... everyone turns into a legal expert

    It's really incredible. None of them know anything about the case. They have not followed the case through the media, which is slanted anyways, or by independently watching/following the case, but express rage to fit in with what everyone else is saying about the issue.

    "It's just so hard," Greivis said. "It's my heart, my love. Maryland made me who I am."

    RaiseHigh

  • DBlockTerp said...

    I have no moral opposition to the death penalty. It's not even about this case specifically. I just have no faith in the system to get it right 100% of the time, and that's the ONLY acceptable success rate.

    This.

    PantsEnFuego ●

  • Point is -- the death penalty is irreversible and should never be used in any case where there is even a .01% chance of innocence

    Not to mention that all the extra costs and delays (relative to life in prison) due to the legal appeals, the racial bias in its use, and all the other problems

    Death penalty serves no role in a modern society and Troy Davis may go on to be considered a martyr in the movement to abolish this barbaric practice

    canadianpotato

  • After encouraging an individual to read the opinion and constantly recanting her own views and experiences with racism (she's a 25 year old white girl), I once again asked a girl to give me some rationale for her strong stance on the opinion. Response:

    Sarah CXXXXX
    I just think its crap

    "It's just so hard," Greivis said. "It's my heart, my love. Maryland made me who I am."

    RaiseHigh

  • Holy shit:

    Me
    Provide rationale for Casey Anthony's guilt and Troy Davis' innocent, please.

    Sarah CXXXXX
    Im not commenting on ur posts anymore u make me think and I dont like to think I just know in my heart whats what

    This post was edited by RaiseHigh on 9/21/2011 at 10:56 PM

    "It's just so hard," Greivis said. "It's my heart, my love. Maryland made me who I am."

    RaiseHigh

  • RHTB&G said...

    Holy shit:

    Me Provide rationale for Casey Anthony's guilt and Troy Davis' innocent, please.

    Sarah CXXXXX Im not commenting on ur posts anymore u make me think and I dont like to think I just know in my heart whats what

    If you can find the defriend on NuFacebook you need to defriend this broad

    PantsEnFuego ●

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