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  • This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by reeceg1 on 4/26/2012 at 12:43 PM

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    Layman ... Jake Layman!

    reeceg1

  • Less than two month away. I'll be a frequent visitor. Still want National Harbor to come through though.

    kool

  • Just so I don't look like a fool, the "Sluts in Maryland" parody thread was started the first time this came around, correct?

    "I suffered through the Boller years and nearly a decade of offensive futility." -Bmorechil

    ccterp

  • ccterp said...

    Just so I don't look like a fool, the "Sluts in Maryland" parody thread was started the first time this came around, correct?

    yep

    Layman ... Jake Layman!

    reeceg1

  • June 6th is the official first day. I will be there all day on Friday June 8th if possible.

    kool

  • reeceg1 said...

    yep

    Might have even been two boards ago as well.

    OrangeTerrapin

  • Maryland Live! Casino | Drive the Diamond

    Mayland Live! Casino will create 4,000 new jobs, and generate $400 million in tax revenue. Supporting Anne Arundel Country residents, local schools, and Maryland's children. Improving traffic pattern for Arundel Mills Commercial District, as well as providing $30 million in county revenue for safer streets, improved roads, and local tax relief.

    www.marylandlivecasino.com

    Layman ... Jake Layman!

    reeceg1

  • reeceg1 said...

    This is why PG County is trying so hard to get a casino at National Harbor. If the people were not so stupid the first time around one would be already there by now.

    kool

  • Arundel Mills casino attempts to set itself apart with electronic table games

    Sprawling complex set to open at night on June 6

    By Steve Kilar, The Baltimore Sun

    9:56 p.m. EDT, May 29, 2012

    Just beyond the entrance of the Maryland Live Casino, row and row of video slot machines clang and beep and flash, beckoning would-be gamblers to insert bills — or even a credit card.

    Sprawling across a space larger than three typical Wal-Marts, the casino at Arundel Mills Mall, scheduled to open June 6, also features gaming consoles hooked into video feeds of real-time dice rolls, roulette wheel spins and card deck deals.

    "We are really concentrated on turning it into a really dynamic environment," said Joe Weinberg, managing partner and president of gaming forthe Cordish Cos., the Baltimore-based development firm that built and operates the casino. The company offered a news media preview on Tuesday.

    "You see the cards fly across the screen as they're dealt to you and you can see what the other players' cards are as well," he said. "The only difference is that you don't have a dealer."

    Next Wednesday's launch of the state's largest casino ends one chapter of the casino's story, a four-year fight to get the Hanover facility built. The grand opening starts another chapter, promising new tax revenue for the state and legislative battles to halt proposals for live dealers and for a gaming development inPrince George's County.

    There will be 3,200 electronic games when the casino's doors open next week, which will balloon to 4,750 machines by October. The 330,000-square-foot casino — just less than half of which will be dedicated to the games, the rest to restaurants and entertainment — cost $500 million and took years of wrangling with politicians, neighbors and other would-be casino operators.

    Maryland Live faced several delays since the state constitution was amended to allow slots gambling in 2008.

    A months-long court battle with the Maryland Jockey Club, which wanted Anne Arundel's only slots license directed to the Laurel Park race track, ended in 2010 with a voter referendum. County residents affirmed Cordish's right to construct a casino at the mall.

    Then permit appeals, filed by neighboring residents and a nearby retailer, delayed construction again.

    Opponents argued to the Anne Arundel County Board of Appeals that traffic would be a problem at the site, which is right off Route 100 and already had heavy traffic because of the mall. In February of last year, the opponents withdrew their appeals and Cordish was allowed to continue construction.

    "Best of luck to our new neighbors," said Rob Annicelli, one of the casino's main opponents, by phone Tuesday. He still owns a residence near Arundel Mills but now lives in Virginia, he said, and no longer opposes the casino.

    Although opposition faded, Cordish was forced to scrap plans for a temporary casino in favor of speeding up construction for the permanent facility.

    More traffic around Arundel Mills seems inevitable.

    Maryland Live's 5,000-car garage envelopes the casino and offers free parking. And, Weinberg said, there will be 15,000 people inside the casino on a good night. But those new cars should be absorbed into the area's more efficient traffic patterns, he said.

    Cordish spent about $10 million improving the roads around mall, including a new "diverging diamond interchange," which replaced a traffic circle with travel lanes controlled by stoplights, adding new signage, turn lanes and widening streets, he said.

    "What we've done has paved the way for future growth in the area," Weinberg said.

    Maryland Live will be the state's third operating casino. Smaller casinos have opened in Perryville and Berlin. A facility in Western Maryland, at Rocky Gap Lodge and Golf Resort in Allegany, and a casino in Baltimore also are planned.

    Aaron Meisner, a Guilford resident who fought against slots gaming as coordinating chairman of the now-dissolved group StopSlotsMaryland, said he is "very pessimistic" about what the opening of Maryland Live will mean in terms of addiction and other social problems. He also said he fears local politicians have already lost control over the gambling industry.

    "That's what you have to look forward to moving forward: social issues and a continuation of this gridlock in Annapolis over expansion," he said. "My argument early on was once you had slots, you'd be completely unable to overcome the amount of lobbying dollars that would flood into Annapolis."

    In a special session tentatively set for mid-July, the General Assembly will discuss two gambling issues: Whether a sixth casino, at National Harbor in Prince George's County, should be built and whether human dealers should be allowed.

    Cordish opposes a casino at National Harbor because it wasn't anticipated years ago when Maryland Live's business plan was written and will cut into the Hanover location's clientele, Weinberg said.

    Maryland Live is ready to replace its electronic table games with human dealers. The machines dealing cards and rolling dice on camera for the electronic table games aren't the same, but not for lack of trying.

    "The idea is to make it as much like a manned table as we can," said Rob Norton, Maryland Live's president and general manager. For example, he said, at some of the gaming tables, bartenders will call the machine's dice rolls, "just like a real stickman."

    Though the bartenders will provide social interaction, Maryland's casinos still are at a disadvantage to other states that allow human dealers, Weinberg said. Moreover, Maryland Live would want to hire another 800 people — they already plan to hire 1,500 by October — to man table games, he said.

    Employment isn't the only economic impact the casino is expected to have on Maryland. Cordish projects that the casino will pay the state $400 million in tax revenue every year. Casino revenue is directed to the state's Education Trust Fund. Cordish's decision to delay the casino's opening by more than six months cost the state an estimated $70 million in expected revenue.

    Maryland Live is scheduled to open Wednesday, June 6, at 10 p.m., provided regulators from the Maryland Lottery give the casino a go-ahead after a trial-run examination planned for Saturday.

    If there are problems, a second inspection would happen Monday, said Carmen Gonzales, a spokeswoman for the casino.

    The Maryland Lottery, which did not respond to requests for comment Tuesday, is "already working side by side with us to make sure that all the games are up and talking, that all of our procedures are in place," Norton said.

    Baltimore Sun reporter Kevin Rector contributed to this article.

    steve.kilar@baltsun.com

    Layman ... Jake Layman!

    reeceg1

  • I long for the day when there is "poker" in this thread title.

    parlay

  • I love these restrictions. "This kind of gambling is good, but this kind is bad." Of course, it's the same message we've gotten from having a lottery all these years. In California, because of whatever restrictions they have, you can't play craps or roulette the normal way. They've gotten around the restrictions by putting cards in slots and spinning a wheel. The wheel lands with the arrow pointing to one card. The dealer pulls it out. That's your number. Roulette. Same odds, same game, different mechanism. One's legal. The other isn't.

    wcterp

  • wcterp said...

    I love these restrictions. "This kind of gambling is good, but this kind is bad." Of course, it's the same message we've gotten from having a lottery all these years. In California, because of whatever restrictions they have, you can't play craps or roulette the normal way. They've gotten around the restrictions by putting cards in slots and spinning a wheel. The wheel lands with the arrow pointing to one card. The dealer pulls it out. That's your number. Roulette. Same odds, same game, different mechanism. One's legal. The other isn't.

    Government is illogical. No wai!!

    MuddyLake

  • Here is a corresponding article from the Post.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/2012/05/29/gJQAFK9H0U_story.html

    kool

  • parlay said...

    I long for the day when there is "poker" in this thread title.

    and real table games as well.

    terp11

  • parlay said...

    I long for the day when there is "poker" in this thread title.

    I saw some old renderings of the new Live! Casino showing a poker room. It looked like a normal poker room but with screens at each seat. Perhaps they are allowing electric "no human dealer" poker? I would imagine the fish might line up for the "slot-looking" poker table.

    edwurtle

  • wcterp said...

    I love these restrictions. "This kind of gambling is good, but this kind is bad." Of course, it's the same message we've gotten from having a lottery all these years. In California, because of whatever restrictions they have, you can't play craps or roulette the normal way. They've gotten around the restrictions by putting cards in slots and spinning a wheel. The wheel lands with the arrow pointing to one card. The dealer pulls it out. That's your number. Roulette. Same odds, same game, different mechanism. One's legal. The other isn't.

    I was just out at the Pala in California. I was shocked to see that.

    rufreshterps

  • Tonight is the big night at Arundel Mills. I hate to see the traffic around this place over the weekend.

    kool

  • I'm going to give it a week before I go. A couple friends of mine are going tonight.

    Layman ... Jake Layman!

    reeceg1

  • This is only slots?

    Yawn

    I just embarrassed myself with this post

    HamsterHuey

  • I find it to be a quandary whether I want stupidity (or perhaps gambling addictions) to fund Maryland's government.

    ...Ah, fuck it- bring on the 400 million per year idiots!

    SodaTerpinski

  • edwurtle said...

    I saw some old renderings of the new Live! Casino showing a poker room. It looked like a normal poker room but with screens at each seat. Perhaps they are allowing electric "no human dealer" poker? I would imagine the fish might line up for the "slot-looking" poker table.

    Looks that way. All of the classic table games are there as electronic games.

    There's also an online casino, but it appears to only use credits that have no cash value.

    Unavailable

    Either this website doesn't exist or is not currently available.

    www.marylandlivecasino.com

    Baldwin

  • akwhite8 said...

    This is only slots?

    Yawn

    They have electronic table games. They are suppose to be exactly like real table games except their isn't an actual human being dishing out the cards. That's why it's legal in Maryland.

    kool

  • apparently rams head is putting in a concert venue at the casino

    DaveJuice

  • kool said...

    They have electronic table games. They are suppose to be exactly like real table games except their isn't an actual human being dishing out the cards. That's why it's legal in Maryland.

    Really.

    So there will be 10 people at the table? How do you protect your cards?

    Any idea on the rake?

    I just embarrassed myself with this post

    HamsterHuey

  • If it's like the electronic games on cruises, the cards stay face down, unless you press on them, when they'll reveal themselves. And the ones on cruises had huge rakes, or maybe it just seemed huge because of how many more hands were played per hour with the automated shuffling/dealing.

    theaman