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Rank this moment in terms of all time memorable moments

  • Miracle on Ice was a HUGE political, social, and historical story.

    And the first pitch in Yankee stadium, coming off what had just happened, had way more significance to me as a sign of healing and overcoming what had happened. It's an image I'll personally remember far more than this, coming 10 years after the fact.

    Katrina is going to end up being way more important to the country's history than this. We are talking about the virtual destruction of a major American city.

    And OJ created an entirely new world from a news perspective. Just think about how news is presented now, how important television news is, and how news outlets now go ahead with stories without having any kind of verification of facts, and it starts IMO with OJ in the white Bronco. That event and the desire to "have it here first" in news reporting forever altered the landscape. That's historical relevance way beyond this.

    bkmalik

  • parlay said...

    Newsflash: there is nothing in sports of more historical significance.

    Again, the Miracle on Ice counts because of the Cold War implications and history.

    bkmalik

  • parlay said...

    Quite possibly. Both stories are still being written in terms of historical significance.

    Not with this country's history regarding racial tolerance. Obama's election is tied to hundreds of years of US history, and in real terms for people today that lived through segragation, Jim Crow laws in the south, the 1960s Civil Right movement, etc.

    Honestly, how many of those people truly thought they would move from not being allowed to attend an integrated school or college, or having separate freaking bathrooms and water fountains, to seeing a black man elected president in their lifetime?

    bkmalik

  • Almost all important events are important events because they change the course of history. Yesterday will not change the course of history. It was ceremonious. Closure for many. A final chapter to the first book of what's sure to be a series. Great day? Sure. Top 10? Let's just say yesterday was my birthday, and it wasn't even the best present I received (the wife came through big time.)

    Allenbaba

  • parlay said...

    Miracle, Lennon, a 1st pitch, OJ?

    We are talking about a mark in history. The 1st pitch might make it into a history book but bin laden might be a seminar.

    I agree with the wall.

    I think challenger and Lockerbie are on a similar level

    The Reagan shooting and Katrina are certainly significant historically but I think they fall below this.

    Sully wasn't alive for Lennon, miracle, Reagan at least, possibly a couple more.

    I have a feeling you aren't seperating bin laden's death with bin laden's legacy

    and if you are, well many disagree but you're entitled to your opinion

    "WE WANT MORE WE WANT MORE girl is providing the rallying cry for the 2013 O's." ~dh2k3

    JDawgBBall9

  • I agree wholeheartedly with bkmalik's approach on this. Sure, it's debatable whether or not a couple of the lower-tier events on his list are more historically significant. However, it's obvious that people are (understandably) caught up in the moment of this event and once the euphoria settles down, we'll understand it in much more real terms, with the emotional element playing less of a role.

    I will admit, however, to chuckling at the idea that this will somehow trivialize the idiots on either end of the political spectrum. 9/11 couldn't do that for more than a couple of weeks - why would this?

    tecmoHOOperbowl

  • Above Biggie's murder, below Pac's murder.

    chivas

  • Jackie Robinson's first game was a sporting event, parlay. It is more significant than bin laden's death.

    strza12

  • Allenbaba said...

    Almost all important events are important events because they change the course of history. Yesterday will not change the course of history. It was ceremonious. Closure for many. A final chapter to the first book of what's sure to be a series. Great day? Sure. Top 10? Let's just say yesterday was my birthday, and it wasn't even the best present I received (the wife came through big time.)

    :highfive:

    But you are right, and so is jdawg. 9/11 is the legacy, while tomorrow will be remembered more as a footnote to that legacy.

    bkmalik

  • Haven't read the entire thread, but IMO the most memorable moment is not one and the same as the most historical moment. The death of Osama Bin Laden is the closing chapter of the defining American moment of the 21st Century (as of now), so it has immense historical significance. But there are tons of people who won't find it as the most resonant experience.

    Soundsnice

  • strza12 said...

    Jackie Robinson's first game was a sporting event, parlay. It is more significant than bin laden's death.

    Great call, IMO.

    bkmalik

  • Title of this thread is memorable, not significant. A lot of people here seem to be addressing significance, which the argument can certainly be made (and is probably right) that there are many more significant events in recent history.

    Memorable though? You can't convince me there's 20 more memorable events than the death of the guy who was the face and driving force behind #1 on EVERYONE'S list by a military operation that is the stuff of Hollywood action movies.

    Devils0720

  • Devils0720 said...

    Title of this thread is memorable, not significant. A lot of people here seem to be addressing significance, which the argument can certainly be made (and is probably right) that there are many more significant events in recent history.

    Memorable though? You can't convince me there's 20 more memorable events than the death of the guy who was the face and driving force behind #1 on EVERYONE'S list by a military operation that is the stuff of Hollywood action movies.

    It's tough to define the rules. Finding nothing in Al Capone's vault was more "memorable."

    Allenbaba

  • Soundsnice said...

    Haven't read the entire thread, but IMO the most memorable moment is not one and the same as the most historical moment. The death of Osama Bin Laden is the closing chapter of the defining American moment of the 21st Century (as of now), so it has immense historical significance. But there are tons of people who won't find it as the most resonant experience.

    I'm still trying to sort this out, but I guess the point is that this really isn't a defining moment. It might be the end of the chapter, but it may just be the prelude to bigger events. One of my professors at MD (can't remember his name, crazy hippy, but really smart) gave us the starfish model for Al-Qaeda, basically, the ideology is the center of the starfish, and the terror groups are the "limbs". So, we've cut off one of the limbs, maybe, but the rest will survive. So I doubt this is a turning point in the "War on Terror".

    Again, this isn't an attempt to downplay the significance, but in terms of historical resonance, this isn't even close to 9/11 obviously, and I would definitely put Obama's election ahead of it, whether you like his politics or not. I would put Katrina ahead too. I certainly put this in the top 20 though.

    I think it's an interesting call as far as whether this or Saddam's capture has more impact. Osama certainly has the more visceral reaction, but I think Saddam will have a more immediate impact as far as its effect on America.

    This post was edited by DBlockTerp on 5/2/2011 at 10:40 AM

    I felt like I should have issued an amber alert for myself, just in case

    DBlockTerp

  • Devils0720 said...

    Title of this thread is memorable, not significant. A lot of people here seem to be addressing significance, which the argument can certainly be made (and is probably right) that there are many more significant events in recent history.

    Memorable though? You can't convince me there's 20 more memorable events than the death of the guy who was the face and driving force behind #1 on EVERYONE'S list by a military operation that is the stuff of Hollywood action movies.

    This.

    Bin Laden's death, and not just death - his killing by US special forces, is a really really memorable event. If he died in a cave due to kidney failure, it'd be different. But we found his ass and went in and mopped him up.

    It may not be significant in the grand scheme, but I think this is something that we're going to remember for a long time.

    Terpes

  • oralterpitude. said...

    Not even a blip.

    It's 'memorable' and 'significant' to some 1st world citizens who live cushy insulated lives, because daddy killed a boogey man.

    This does nothing to stop the suffering and injustices that are ongoing throughout the world.

    You're only saying this because SMB was a disaster on the scale of 9/11

    I felt like I should have issued an amber alert for myself, just in case

    DBlockTerp

  • oralterpitude. said...

    Not even a blip.

    It's 'memorable' and 'significant' to some 1st world citizens who live cushy insulated lives, because daddy killed a boogey man.

    This does nothing to stop the suffering and injustices that are ongoing throughout the world.

    don't you dare bring the African genocides into this

    "WE WANT MORE WE WANT MORE girl is providing the rallying cry for the 2013 O's." ~dh2k3

    JDawgBBall9

  • Historical moments of my life:

    1. 9/11
    2. Reagan getting shot
    3. Challenger
    4. Fall of the Berlin Wall
    5. Desert Shield/Storm
    6. Miracle on Ice
    7. 1994 Election
    8. Bin Laden killed
    9. Financial crisis 2008-Present
    10. Indonesian tsunami

    QuakerTerp

  • It's easily top 10 for me. But one day I'll have explain to my grandkids where I was when it happened - on a message board making corny jokes with other dorks.

    This post was edited by BrunoTerp on 5/2/2011 at 11:37 AM

    BrunoTerp


  • Here's seven more memorable events to me from 1968 alone:

    March 16 - Vietnam War – My Lai massacre: American troops kill scores of civilians.
    April 4 - Martin Luther King, Jr. is shot dead at the Lorraine Motel in Memphis, Tennessee.
    April 11 – U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson signs the Civil Rights Act of 1968.
    June 5 – U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy is shot at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles, California by Sirhan Sirhan.
    August 22 – Police clash with anti-war protesters in Chicago, Illinois, outside the 1968 Democratic National Convention.
    October 16 - In Mexico City, black American athletes Tommie Smith and John Carlos raise their arms in a black power
    December 24 – Apollo Program: U.S. spacecraft Apollo 8 enters orbit around the Moon.

    Terp75

  • I found out about Obama's statement, saw this thread, found out what happened and was like "awesome, got that motherf***er", and then went back to watching Game of Thrones. I dunno, didn't seem that significant to me.

    A.B.E.

    historicus

  • Since others are doing it, here are the most memorable news events in my lifetime from my perspective. I'm definitely a lot younger than most of you, and am leaving out events in my lifetime that would obviously fit in this category because I'm too young to remember (Challenger being the main one).

    1. 9/11
    2. Fall of Berlin Wall
    3. Obama election
    4. Japan earthquake/tsunami/nuclear crisis (I'm hesitant to put this so high because it's fresh, but I think this be very memorable over time)
    5. Columbine
    6. Katrina
    7. Sumatra earthquake/tsunami
    8. VaTech massacre
    9. Sadaam captured
    10. World Series earthquake

    Out of these, I'd say Bin Laden would easily go in the top 5.

    Gumbercules

  • Gumbercules said...

    Since others are doing it, here are the most memorable news events in my lifetime from my perspective. I'm definitely a lot younger than most of you, and am leaving out events in my lifetime that would obviously fit in this category because I'm too young to remember (Challenger being the main one).

    1. 9/11 2. Fall of Berlin Wall 3. Obama election 4. Japan earthquake/tsunami/nuclear crisis (I'm hesitant to put this so high because it's fresh, but I think this be very memorable over time) 5. Columbine 6. Katrina 7. Sumatra earthquake/tsunami 8. VaTech massacre 9. Sadaam captured 10. World Series earthquake

    Out of these, I'd say Bin Laden would easily go in the top 5.

    Somewhere in there you have to have the Challenger explosion. That was the biggest "oh shit!" day of my life until 9/11.

    I personally think Osama is a big deal, but it doesn't quite have the "huge moment" mojo that will make it the VJ Day of our time.

    fletchterpz

  • Since it happened so close and only a year after 9/11, I personally would have a hard time putting VT over the DC sniper. I had friends there (one was on the rescue squad and told me some of the things he saw due to shared experiences) and we scrambled to locate them with cell phone towers down there being busy but having the schools on lockdown for so long and everyone in the area terrified of being near a window kinda sucked.

    "WE WANT MORE WE WANT MORE girl is providing the rallying cry for the 2013 O's." ~dh2k3

    JDawgBBall9

  • Yeah no way VT shooting is above DC sniper in terms of memorable moments. The VT sniper was localized in one place, the DC sniper basically had the entire DC/MD/VA region living in fear for a month.

    hgoodman