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incorrect. But I'd love to see whatever evidence you can provide. You're far from the first person to try to discredit them by tying the movement to social conservatism, but it's not true. Obviously there is a significant number who are both, but to say "vast majority" is absolutely false.

A great comment at Politico on the debate moderator choices:

Debate moderators were chosen for diversity - a network liberal, a cable liberal, a PBS liberal and a female liberal.

As much as I'd really like to hammer Durr on this, he is pretty correct that the TP has been co-opted - I mean Bachmann? Really?

In the end, though, it's the opposition's way of saying "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" (deficits,debt load, whatever you want to call it).

Even a Chicago liberal I work with admits that the TP originally had a totally legitimate message regarding spending and was certainly a reaction to Bush's bogus accounting and spending as much as any Democratic equivalent. Yet here we are years later because controlling spending seems to be anathema to the left.

I agree. If the TP stays on message they will hopefully help prevent distraction from the major issue facing the country. Somebody needs to tell the Republican organization, though, so they stop with the BS that they're wrapping the TP around.

of course he did not "vote" to ban abortions in all cases because the bill never came to vote. he co-sponsored the bill which you can find here.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr212

1/7/2011--Introduced.
Sanctity of Human Life Act - Declares that: (1) the right to life guaranteed by the Constitution is vested in each human and is the person's paramount and most fundamental right; (2) each human life begins with fertilization, cloning, or its functional equivalent, at which time every human has all legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood; and (3) Congress, each state, the District of Columbia, and all U.S. territories have the authority to protect all human lives.

I think one of the qualifications for party chair is that you have to be an idiot. I'm not sure why you would want the job otherwise.

I am looking forward to the Frode/Crofton vs. Soulman/Paul ticket. I might enjoy just a thread with these four but then would miss out on all the unintended humor that 5th and McCracken bring.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has decried the losses on the auto bailout and insisted that forcing GM and Chrysler Group LLC to go through bankruptcy first would have saved taxpayers money.

But President George W. Bush — who gave the automakers and their finance arms about $25 billion in his final weeks in office in bailout funds — said there wasn't time

Also note that Paul Ryan voted for the bailouts.

Meh, you could say that NBA games get decided in the 4th Quarter, but that doesn't mean you don't watch the rest of the game!

Not to mention that thread was getting out of hand.

LOL, that's just because sohlman hasn't learned that writing War and Peace on here isn't going to help his arguments against people whose minds are already made up.

My answer to your question kinda reinforces my point...I have no idea, because I've never seen a tea party website, editorial, etc. say one thing or another about it.

Well, they do have good chicken. But if I had a dollar for every time I found out an "indisputable fact" wasn't true...

90% of tea partiers or 90% of the population? I think it is more then 75% of the populations supports the old man has a option to speak about what he feels is right. Its his opinion right or wrong. The ultra libs wanted to make it another war on something but it backfired.