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Mad Men Season 5 Thread

  • SATerp said...

    Wouldn't Bert Cooper be a better choice? He's pretty throwaway right now.

    WHAT....THIS IS HIS BUSINESS....SA you have been on rangoon leave too long biggrin

    HumphreyBogart said... Jackie Robinson isn't dirty. This isn't Pack Pride.

    tcc_dc

  • Cooper's old anyway. He could die any day of natural causes and it wouldn't be all that surprising.

    aschaefe

  • neal990 said...

    Someone mentioned earlier that Mohawk had a crash in 1967. That might not be the tragic event that this season is leading to, but maybe having their biggest client (right?) take a hit like that drives someone like Roger or Pete or Glen over the edge.

    At some point this season weren't some of the characters discussing how they'd handle an airline that had a crash? They were referring to another airline. Does anyone remember that? I wish I'd paid closer attention.

    Insightful, bet you are on to something...

    tagterp

  • aschaefe said...

    Cooper's old anyway. He could die any day of natural causes and it wouldn't be all that surprising.

    Don kills himself to end the show. That episode has already been written. Who do you think is the 'jumper' at every start and intermission?

    tagterp

  • tagterp said...

    Don kills himself to end the show. That episode has already been written. Who do you think is the 'jumper' at every start and intermission?

    The jumper was originally going to be Harry Crane, after he cheated on his wife in Season 1. But they liked the actor enough to keep him around instead.

    bkmalik

  • aschaefe said...

    Cooper's old anyway. He could die any day of natural causes and that would unbelievably boring

    FIFY.

    classlessthug: I have too much on my plate to worry about the fact that my junk intimidates some needle D undergrad.

    eamhokie94

  • nats_ebooks said...

    all she does is transcribe EVERY SINGLE SCENE and connect the most obvious of dots. she doesn't add anything at all. i haven't read that shit since episode 2, until just now after you said that to see if she's improved. nope! waste of words.

    Same here. I read her first 3 from this season and stopped because there's really nothing in there. It's just a cliff notes of the show.

    Sepinwall did point out something very interesting, about how accelerated the cultural stuff is in this year after the show was only gradually affected by it in the first 4 season. Which IMO is really reflected historically, since what people consider to be "the 60s" is really the years from 1964/5 to the end of Nixon. So it makes a lot of sense that the history and culture of the show remained fairly stagnant, or at least minimally impacted by outside forces thus far.

    bkmalik

  • akwhite8 said...

    Megan is an interesting idea. Could take Don to a really dark place

    Haven't we already kind of been to that place with the death of Anna?

    MisterSmiley

  • fletchterpz said...

    It's funny that Megan chose a song that was clearly not The Beatles Don was used to hearing, which explains why he turned it off. There are five or six songs on Revolver that are much more accessible to someone like Don.

    Did she point him to that specific song? If so, I missed it. I didn't understand why he would immediately go to the last track on side 2 of the disc.

    Terpetrator

  • Yeah, she told him specifically to listen to that one.

    And Megan isn't going to die, she's been a fantastic addition to the cast.

    Hell, they've done SO MUCH foreshadowing on it I bet no one of consequence dies.

    bkmalik

  • Why didn't Don immediately report the issue with the elevator to maintenance?

    Terpetrator

  • bkmalik said...

    Hell, they've done SO MUCH foreshadowing on it I bet no one of consequence dies.

    the more they foreshadow and the more i think about it, i think this is correct.

    mad men isnt like the wire, where they will kill people off and let new layers of the show replace it. it's a terrarium, a fishbowl. they havent even added any major characters since season 1 except megan and pryce.

    ~~^~~ SHARK!!

    nats_ebooks

  • At the current pace of the historical events included on the show (Richard Speck, Charles Whitman, Revolver), I will be born in about 3 or 4 episodes.

    Terpetrator

  • Terpetrator said...

    Why didn't Don immediately report the issue with the elevator to maintenance?

    In a deleted scene, Don gathered the wives of all of the men in the office, took off his shirt, and fixed the elevator himself in front of them.

    neal990

  • bkmalik said...

    Yeah, she told him specifically to listen to that one.

    And Megan isn't going to die, she's been a fantastic addition to the cast.

    Hell, they've done SO MUCH foreshadowing on it I bet no one of consequence dies.

    I don't remember her saying a specific song, she just gave album to him

    terpdog

  • terpdog said...

    I don't remember her saying a specific song, she just gave album to him

    She said "start with this one" or something like that and pointed to the track

    TerpDaddy

  • terpdog said...

    I don't remember her saying a specific song, she just gave album to him

    Yeah....I'm going to go back and watch that scene again.....and then I'll go back and watch Peggy give the hand job to the random dude in the theater during the movie "Born Free".

    Terpetrator

  • bkmalik said...

    Yeah, she told him specifically to listen to that one.

    And Megan isn't going to die, she's been a fantastic addition to the cast.

    Hell, they've done SO MUCH foreshadowing on it I bet no one of consequence dies.

    But who will answer the phones?

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    HumphreyBogart said... Jackie Robinson isn't dirty. This isn't Pack Pride.

    tcc_dc

  • Don't know if it's been mentioned but the cast and Weiner will be on Inside the Actor's studio on May 14th.

    QuakerTerp

  • QuakerTerp said...

    Don't know if it's been mentioned but the cast and Weiner will be on Inside the Actor's studio on May 14th.

    TiVo picked up the new episode, but the listing didn't show who the guest would be. I'm psyched now!

    Terpetrator

  • bkmalik said...

    Hell, they've done SO MUCH foreshadowing on it I bet no one of consequence dies.

    This is my feeling as well. Or at least, I doubt it will be Pete. There's been so much around him that screams "THIS GUY IS GOING TO DIE" that it is now so obvious that they're building towards his death that I'd actually be surprised if it ends up happening. Did anyone notice that when he hung his coat up in the office right before talking to Harry, it was framed in such a way to look like the Grim Reaper lurking behind him?

    I also had a different interpretation of the elevator shaft than Sepinwall and a few others I've read. Don clearly wanted to chase after Megan, and try to convince her to keep going like they had been going...the "love leave" that Cooper talked about. I think the shock of the empty elevator shaft jolted him away from that. I don't really know what it means for Don and Megan, but I think that his work will start improving again. I already felt like his presentation with Peggy was an example of him being the more focused and driven of the two of them. Back to blaming Peggy and believing in his heart that he could do no wrong even when she really wasn't to blame.

    As an aside...I didn't really catch why, exactly, they needed to be doing that presentation in the first place. Why wasn't it in the office? And why did they need to see Don and Megan (or Peggy) act it out instead of them just describing what it would be to Head of Desserts Belding? Just seemed like a very unusual pitch from most, if not all, of the others we have seen through the series.

    BustaJ2632

  • I don't even interpret most of them as foreshadowing, just as symbolism. Like with the life insurance, Pete is killing his marriage.

    "WE WANT MORE WE WANT MORE girl is providing the rallying cry for the 2013 O's." ~dh2k3

    JDawgBBall9

  • Pete is too interesting/important of a character to kill off.

    Killing off a main characters seems too cheesy and expected. I doubt it happens.

    MisterSmiley

  • BustaJ2632 said...

    As an aside...I didn't really catch why, exactly, they needed to be doing that presentation in the first place. Why wasn't it in the office? And why did they need to see Don and Megan (or Peggy) act it out instead of them just describing what it would be to Head of Desserts Belding? Just seemed like a very unusual pitch from most, if not all, of the others we have seen through the series.

    Heinz dude's wife told her friend, the wife of Mr. Belding/Desert Guy, about the husband and wife pitch with Don and Megan, and Belding wanted to see it for himself. Ken mentioned it briefly in the prep meeting where Don and Megan first did the run through the bit.

    bkmalik

  • BustaJ2632 said...

    This is my feeling as well. Or at least, I doubt it will be Pete. There's been so much around him that screams "THIS GUY IS GOING TO DIE" that it is now so obvious that they're building towards his death that I'd actually be surprised if it ends up happening. Did anyone notice that when he hung his coat up in the office right before talking to Harry, it was framed in such a way to look like the Grim Reaper lurking behind him?

    I also had a different interpretation of the elevator shaft than Sepinwall and a few others I've read. Don clearly wanted to chase after Megan, and try to convince her to keep going like they had been going...the "love leave" that Cooper talked about. I think the shock of the empty elevator shaft jolted him away from that. I don't really know what it means for Don and Megan, but I think that his work will start improving again. I already felt like his presentation with Peggy was an example of him being the more focused and driven of the two of them. Back to blaming Peggy and believing in his heart that he could do no wrong even when she really wasn't to blame.

    As an aside...I didn't really catch why, exactly, they needed to be doing that presentation in the first place. Why wasn't it in the office? And why did they need to see Don and Megan (or Peggy) act it out instead of them just describing what it would be to Head of Desserts Belding? Just seemed like a very unusual pitch from most, if not all, of the others we have seen through the series.

    For what it may be worth, my psychologist wife thinks the elevator shaft and Don's staring down that shaft was a projection of his isolation, detachment and helplessness.

    tagterp