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July 4th Food/BBQ Thread

  • I know many of you already have a lot of suque homework, but your harpy wife is gonna make you do it anyway and you've got a camera on your damn cell phone. So just, like, post pics.

    TheGreenBastard

  • I should have taken a picture of everything that I had to throw out this morning.

    Still mulling over ideas for tomorrow.

    StoneTheCrow

  • Ahh, didn't even thing about the electricity angle. Another reason to light some charcoal.

    TheGreenBastard

  • Will be doing crabs, beer, and shrimp outdoors tomorrow. Learned something new today, when you get a bushel of crabs, make sure they are right side up. If they are upside down, they will die more quickly.

    I run to the Wye River which is 1 and 1/2 hours from my house. The best way to transport the crabs and keep them ALL alive is simple. I use regular bushel baskets with lids, some old towels and ice. Place crabs, right side up in basket and fill to just over 3/4 full. If any are upside down, they will die. Cover the crabs with a damp towel. The damp towel keeps them calm and keeps the moisture in the basket. Dump about 10 lbs. of ice (cubes or chips...not a block) onto the towel and spread evenly. Place the bushel basket lid on and secure with a bungee cord so it doesn't fly off in transport.

    I have done this ever since I learned that crabs die in the cooler (they actually drown if covered with a limited amount of water). All they need to to survive out of water is cool and damp environment. Evaporating water (ice) provides both. I have had crabs in bushel baskets like the above description for 6+ hours and no or minimal loss (1 or 2 due to fighting).

    Never put them in a cooler with water or let them get upside down. The big ones need to be handled very carefully as they seem to die when handled roughly out of water.

    This post was edited by sugarmag on 7/3/2012 at 12:24 PM

    sugarmag

  • Jealous.

    TheGreenBastard

  • So far I have 2 racks of baby backs and 1 rack of spare ribs for the smoker, and one whole chicken. I'm going to add at least two or three more items to cover all my surface area, and will also make some custom sausages and burgers. Any ideas for other things to smoke (that won't take 14 hours)? I'm thinking maybe beef back ribs or more spares maybe.

    jburdterps

  • jburdterps said...

    So far I have 2 racks of baby backs and 1 rack of spare ribs for the smoker, and one whole chicken. I'm going to add at least two or three more items to cover all my surface area, and will also make some custom sausages and burgers. Any ideas for other things to smoke (that won't take 14 hours)? I'm thinking maybe beef back ribs or more spares maybe.

    FIsh doesn't take long at all and might be some nice light relief for the female participants.

    terpevo

  • Fish smokes at a lower temp than I'll be keeping it at for the chicken and pork though. I'd have to get up at like 7 to do the fish before I toss on the pork and chicken.

    jburdterps

  • Anyone got a steak marinade that I can use overnight tonight? I've got some worcestshire, some onion and garlic powder, some oranges, soy sauce, plus some dry rubs.

    I'm pretty low on ingredients since i'm living away from home this summer, but this is my first time grilling steak so I'd like a really basic marinade if anyone has one.

    Justerp

  • What cut of steak is it? I don't often marinate them unless its a tougher cut. Just dry spices and salt/pepper usually

    jburdterps

  • jburdterps said...

    So far I have 2 racks of baby backs and 1 rack of spare ribs for the smoker, and one whole chicken. I'm going to add at least two or three more items to cover all my surface area, and will also make some custom sausages and burgers. Any ideas for other things to smoke (that won't take 14 hours)? I'm thinking maybe beef back ribs or more spares maybe.

    You could always smoke some sides like beans or potatoes, or do something wacky like ABTs or moinks that will only take up as much space as you want them to. Also, I'm not sure if you can get tri tip back there but I'm sure the same technique would work with other cuts of beef. I like to smoke until almost rare just to get the flavor in there, then finish over coals. Awesome rareish thin sliced on sandwiches or by itself, and only takes a couple hours (and not much space).

    TheGreenBastard

  • jburdterps said...

    What cut of steak is it? I don't often marinate them unless its a tougher cut. Just dry spices and salt/pepper usually

    Yea if you spent any money on the steak I probably wouldn't use a marinade. If it's cheap or a cut that needs flavor I'd say all the ingredients listed sound like they'd work.

    TheGreenBastard

  • TheGreenBastard said...

    Yea if you spent any money on the steak I probably wouldn't use a marinade. If it's cheap or a cut that needs flavor I'd say all the ingredients listed sound like they'd work.

    Isn't anything expensive. Just picked up 2 new york strips from the grocery store. I might just go with the dry rub if that would work. But I was concerned about losing some of the juciness of it if I don't marinade it (not even sure if this concern is appropriate.)

    Justerp

  • Just don't cut into it while cooking and let it rest for ~5 minutes after taking it off the heat and you should be fine juice-retention wise. Also, let it sit out a while to get to room temperature before you grill it for more even cooking.

    This post was edited by aschaefe on 7/3/2012 at 2:38 PM

    aschaefe

  • Justerp said...

    Isn't anything expensive. Just picked up 2 new york strips from the grocery store. I might just go with the dry rub if that would work. But I was concerned about losing some of the juciness of it if I don't marinade it (not even sure if this concern is appropriate.)

    little salt and pepper and use tongs instead of a fork or knife while it's on the grill.

    This post was edited by Baldwin on 7/3/2012 at 2:38 PM

    Baldwin

  • Baldwin said...

    little salt and pepper and use tongs instead of a fork or knife while it's on the grill.

    This.

    Save your marinade for flank steaks and the like.

    Also, if your steaks are about an inch / inch and a half thick, throw it right over the burner on high (or over the hottest coals) and try to get a good sear on one side - probably about 4 minutes depending on how hot your grill gets. Don't fiddle w/ it much. Flip it and do another 4 minutes. This SHOULD get you to medium rare if it's on the thicker range and the heat is strong. Every grill is different though and what you can learn is to know the done-ness by touch. Good test....

    This post was edited by JJBittenbinder on 7/3/2012 at 2:50 PM

    The Finger Test to Check the Doneness of Steak | Prime Cuts

    http://primecutsblog.com/2008/12/01/the-finger-test-to-check-the-doneness-of-steak/

    primecutsblog.com

    Im ready for aa 5th of vodica to end my feels.

    JJBittenbinder

  • I'm with Baldwin, I usually just do sea salt and cracked black pepper. You want to cook a steak hot and fast so losing moisture shouldn't be too much of a concern.

    TheGreenBastard

  • This, but let it rest a little longer. 15 mins is my minimum.

    Take it out of the fridge 30 mins early so it can come up to room temp. Sprinkle some salt on it when you do this. Make sure its dry at this point.

    After the 30 mins, add pepper, any other dry spices you want to add. Grill to desired doneness, rest for 15 mins before cutting into it.

    Edit: was quoting aschaefe, but we are all basically saying the same thing

    This post was edited by jburdterps on 7/3/2012 at 2:49 PM

    jburdterps

  • jburdterps said...

    This, but let it rest a little longer. 15 mins is my minimum.

    Take it out of the fridge 30 mins early so it can come up to room temp. Sprinkle some salt on it when you do this. Make sure its dry at this point.

    After the 30 mins, add pepper, any other dry spices you want to add. Grill to desired doneness, rest for 15 mins before cutting into it.

    Edit: was quoting aschaefe, but we are all basically saying the same thing

    Thanks.

    I'm guessing I should just let it defrost in the fridge overnight then?

    Justerp

  • A trick I learned with NY Strip steaks (at least when cooking inside, doesn't really matter when grilling outside over direct heat), is to cook on high heat on its side, the side where the strip of fat is located, for a minute or two to render out some of that fat, then flip it 90 degrees and cook it on each of its sides normally. That way you are cooking it in its own fat, and it renders out some of the fat you'd probably end up picking around once it was done anyways.

    jburdterps

  • Oh shit, its frozen? Yeah, defrost overnight in the fridge (start it sooner rather than later), and bring to room temp 30 mins before you cook it.

    jburdterps

  • jburdterps said...

    Oh shit, its frozen? Yeah, defrost overnight in the fridge (start it sooner rather than later), and bring to room temp 30 mins before you cook it.

    Yeah, but I'll be home from work around 530, and I'll have roughly 20 hours at least until I start cooking it. I figure that will be plenty of time.

    Justerp

  • I ended up with a final menu of 2 full chickens, 2 racks of spare ribs (trimmed st louis style and rib tips), 2 racks of baby back ribs, and spent the rest of my energy on 2 homemade sauces. One ketchup-based bourbon memphis type sauce and a mustard-based spicy carolina style sauce. Rubbed the ribs down with my own rub blend and have them sitting overnight, starting them around 9am at 230ish with a blend of oak, hickory, and apple wood most likely... may tinker with the wood types and ratios in the morning, we'll see. Will take pics.

    Also doing 12 or so burgers seasoned with chipotle peppers on a hot charcoal grill and a few hot smoked sausages if needed.

    jburdterps

  • You go boy. I'm working on some marinades now.

    TheGreenBastard

  • I need to take a side to a cookout tomorrow. I want to make something, but don't have any ideas. They already have dips, watermelon, fruit salad and meats. Any cheap but tasty recipes?

    triple b