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  • terps99 said...

    LOL. Obama/his advisers HAVE to be trolling conservatives with some of this rhetoric.

    yeah he is basically president coltsfan at this point

      neal990

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    • I laughed my ass off when I saw that this morning.

        PaulUMD

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      • To be fair, the early Church was straight up voluntary communism. I don't think there's any other way to look at it. Voluntary is the key word there, and it was on a smaller, non-nation-sized scale.

        But communism nonetheless. Read Acts.

          "And I try to har-mo-nize with songs the lonesome sparrow sings... There are no kings inside the Gates of Eden."

          dixonownsyou

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        • dixonownsyou said...

          Voluntary is the key word there

          you think?

            Phatboy if you had any balls I'd meet you at the AFA Boxing gym and have Coach Weichers put some gloves on us.

            phatphelix

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          • SATerp said...

            Obama sez:

            How do you know Obama's lying? His lips are moving. (drum roll, cymbal crash)

              bbpgtr

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            • Holder's major league criminal performance is taking away from Obama's Double-A level presidency (if it's possible for the O to look any worse than he already does).

              "Mr. Holder. How come you can never say my son’s name. You never have. All I ever hear you say is “I didn’t find out or I can’t say.” I’m actually tired of hearing your double talk in answering questions. What a joke you are. You know my son was a real AMERICAN, a WARRIOR, and a HERO, who was also protecting COWARD POLITICIANS like you. Hope you remember that."

              Slow and Infuriating | The Weekly Standard

              Read conservative news, blogs and opinion about Eric Holder and Fast and Furious from The Weekly Standard, the must read magazine available in online edition.

              www.weeklystandard.com

                SATerp

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              • Cindy Sheehan just wanted to check in and say, "HI."

                  Remember: use of the word "clown" or "fraud" is a strong indication you're a goddamn moron. - edsbs.com

                  TheRawDogg

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                • TheRawDogg said...

                  Cindy Sheehan just wanted to check in and say, "HI."

                  Funny you should mention her. She was a staple of the MSM for years, how come they won't say a word about Brian Terry's mother?

                    SATerp

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                  • I endorse MoveOn.org commenting on the effects of Obama's economies for the next 30 years or so. They just need to update the tag line:

                    Play

                    moveon.org's 30 second ad winner "Childs Pay"

                    moveon.org 30 second ad winner "Childs Pay"

                    http://www.youtube.com/v/JkFbYxrxbA8

                      SATerp

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                    • SATerp said...

                      I endorse MoveOn.org commenting on the effects of Obama's economies for the next 30 years or so. They just need to update the tag line:

                      Child Pay 2's updated to $10 trillion

                      Play

                      Child's Pay 2

                      MoveOn.org once asked this question: Who will pay for the deficit? I wonder if they still care?

                      http://www.youtube.com/v/DsrFa9jrpv8

                        bbpgtr

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                      • The long term deficit has very little to do with TARP/QE1/Unemployment insurance. You look at the numbers, and the main elephant in the room is the Bush era tax cuts.

                        At the time the Bush tax cuts were proposed, the GOP argued that the government running a surplus to pay back debt was morally wrong, as it involves the government *gasp* taking in more money than they were spending. Democrats balked at the cost, particularly since the benefits largely flowed to a very small percentage of the country, and Republicans had to use reconciliation to get around a Democratic filibuster.

                        Many Republican strategists have been completely upfront about one of the major reasons behind tax cuts is to "starve the beast." By starving the government of tax revenue, they feel they could force the government to cut politically popular programs, believing that they could shift the blame accordingly. Notice how of all of the deficit fighting measures that the GOP is proposing, none of them are touching the tax cuts which put us in this state? Over a 10 year period, the main effect of Republican policies has been to cut social benefits for the less well off to pay for tax cuts for the very wealthy.

                        And Republican politicians want to sell us that they have always been good-faith stewards of our fiscal health? Please.

                          Halfpipe Hero

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                        • For lack of a better thread to put this in, Bob Kerrey has declined to run for Ben Nelson's seat.

                          With Bob Kerrey Declining to Run, Democrats Face Tough Senate Map - ABC News

                          Already facing big disadvantages in Senate campaigns this year, Democrats got another dose of bad news today as former Sen. Bob Kerrey announced he won

                          abcnews.go.com

                            frode

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                          • Dem Rep. Kathy Dahlkemper: I Wouldn't Have Voted for Obamacare If I'd Known About HHS Regulation

                            Former Democratic congresswoman Kathy Dahlkemper, a Catholic from Erie, Pennsylvania, cast a crucial vote in favor of Obamacare in 2010. She lost her seat that November in part because of her controversial support of Obamacare. But Dahlkemper said recently that she would have never voted for the health care bill had she known that the Department of Health and Human Services would require all private insurers, including Catholic charities and hospitals, to provide free coverage of contraception, sterilization procedures, and the "week-after" pill "ella" that can induce early abortions.

                            "I would have never voted for the final version of the bill if I expected the Obama Administration to force Catholic hospitals and Catholic Colleges and Universities to pay for contraception,” Dahlkemper said in a press release sent out by Democrats for Life in November. "We worked hard to prevent abortion funding in health care and to include clear conscience protections for those with moral objections to abortion and contraceptive devices that cause abortion. I trust that the President will honor the commitment he made to those of us who supported final passage."

                            Of course, most abortion opponents disagree with Dahlkemper that the HHS regulation is Obamacare's only moral problem. Under Obamacare, each state's federally subsidized health care exchange is required to offer a health insurance plan that covers elective abortions unless the state passes a law opting out of the requirement.

                            As former Democratic congressman Bart Stupak said when the Senate passed Obamacare in December of 2009, "A review of the Senate language indicates a dramatic shift in federal policy that would allow the federal government to subsidize insurance policies with abortion coverage. Further, the segregation of funds to pay for abortion is another departure from current policy prohibiting federal subsidy of abortion coverage."

                            Stupak, Dahlkemper, and a handful of other Democrats who held back on voting for final passage of Obamacare eventually voted for the exact same language in the Senate bill because the president signed an executive order saying the law wouldn't fund abortions.

                            But the executive order signed by President Obama did nothing to prevent the subsidized health care exchanges from covering elective abortions.

                            Dem Rep. Kathy Dahlkemper: I Wouldn't Have Voted for Obamacare If I'd Known About HHS Regulation | The Weekly Standard

                            Read conservative news, blogs and opinion about abortion, Bart Stupak, Kathy Dahlkemper and Obamacare from The Weekly Standard, the must read magazine available in online edition.

                            www.weeklystandard.com

                              bbpgtr

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                            • bbpgtr said...

                              Dem Rep. Kathy Dahlkemper: I Wouldn't Have Voted for Obamacare If I'd Known About HHS Regulation

                              Former Democratic congresswoman Kathy Dahlkemper, a Catholic from Erie, Pennsylvania, cast a crucial vote in favor of Obamacare in 2010. She lost her seat that November in part because of her controversial support of Obamacare. But Dahlkemper said recently that she would have never voted for the health care bill had she known that the Department of Health and Human Services would require all private insurers, including Catholic charities and hospitals, to provide free coverage of contraception, sterilization procedures, and the "week-after" pill "ella" that can induce early abortions.

                              "I would have never voted for the final version of the bill if I expected the Obama Administration to force Catholic hospitals and Catholic Colleges and Universities to pay for contraception,” Dahlkemper said in a press release sent out by Democrats for Life in November. "We worked hard to prevent abortion funding in health care and to include clear conscience protections for those with moral objections to abortion and contraceptive devices that cause abortion. I trust that the President will honor the commitment he made to those of us who supported final passage."

                              Of course, most abortion opponents disagree with Dahlkemper that the HHS regulation is Obamacare's only moral problem. Under Obamacare, each state's federally subsidized health care exchange is required to offer a health insurance plan that covers elective abortions unless the state passes a law opting out of the requirement.

                              As former Democratic congressman Bart Stupak said when the Senate passed Obamacare in December of 2009, "A review of the Senate language indicates a dramatic shift in federal policy that would allow the federal government to subsidize insurance policies with abortion coverage. Further, the segregation of funds to pay for abortion is another departure from current policy prohibiting federal subsidy of abortion coverage."

                              Stupak, Dahlkemper, and a handful of other Democrats who held back on voting for final passage of Obamacare eventually voted for the exact same language in the Senate bill because the president signed an executive order saying the law wouldn't fund abortions.

                              But the executive order signed by President Obama did nothing to prevent the subsidized health care exchanges from covering elective abortions.

                              Democrats are morons.

                              Of course, so are Republicans. shrug

                                SATerp

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                              • The political transformation of Barack Obama - Jim VandeHei - POLITICO.com

                                Obama, for all his talk of moving beyond conventional political tricks, is resorting to them.

                                www.politico.com

                                  Sdog

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                                • LOL at Obama proclaiming that insurers will "reach out" to see if Catholic women want contraceptive coverage.

                                  Insurance companies: "Say what? Go fuck yourself, your majesty."

                                  The ‘Compromise’

                                  Yuval Levin writes on NRO: If I understand the White House announcement correctly, their newly proposed rule would not actually change the moral circumstances at issue in any way.The problem that opponents of the original rule have had is that it effectively requires religious employers to purchase a product (an insurance policy) that provides their . . .

                                  www.nationalreview.com

                                    SATerp

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                                  • SATerp said...

                                    LOL at Obama proclaiming that insurers will "reach out" to see if Catholic women want contraceptive coverage.

                                    Insurance companies: "Say what? Go fuck yourself, your majesty."

                                    So everyone else will end up paying for this stuff for employees of Catholic institutions. Doesn't that mean Catholic institution insurance will be cheaper (fewer services covered) and everyone else's more expensive (covering services for the Catholics)? That sounds unconsitutional too.

                                      interpid

                                    • interpid said...

                                      So everyone else will end up paying for this stuff for employees of Catholic institutions. Doesn't that mean Catholic institution insurance will be cheaper (fewer services covered) and everyone else's more expensive (covering services for the Catholics)? That sounds unconsitutional too.

                                      Here's a thought - how about the people who want it, GET IT THEMSELVES?

                                        SATerp

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                                      • interpid said...

                                        So everyone else will end up paying for this stuff for employees of Catholic institutions. Doesn't that mean Catholic institution insurance will be cheaper (fewer services covered) and everyone else's more expensive (covering services for the Catholics)? That sounds unconsitutional too.

                                        I'm not sure that particular concept is unconstitutional by any stretch, but yes, this whole thing is absurd on about 100 levels.

                                        This post was edited by terps99 on 2/10/2012 at 3:47 PM

                                          terps99

                                        • Saw this tweet earlier that made me chuckle:

                                          So if insurance companies will have to pay for birth control for their customers now, does that mean the government can stop funding planned parenthood?

                                            neal990

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                                          • Even Critics of Safety Net Depend on It Increasingly - NYTimes.com

                                            The government safety net was created to keep Americans from abject poverty, but the poorest households no longer receive a majority of government benefits.

                                            www.nytimes.com

                                              MuddyLake

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                                            • This ia a real indictment of Obama's current budget proposal:

                                              This is the legacy that we inherit–a legacy of mismanagement and misplaced priorities, of missed opportunities and of deep, structural problems ignored for too long. It’s a legacy of irresponsibility, and it is our duty to change it...Another manifestation of irresponsibility is the large budget deficits we are inheriting. These deficits, over time, will harm economic growth and impose burdens on our children and grandchildren...We are now living with the fallout of this deep fiscal irresponsibility...we must return to the path of fiscal responsibility. It will mean tough choices–choices that are tougher because of the legacy of fiscal irresponsibility left to us.

                                              It is, of course, from Obama's FY 2010 budget proposal.

                                                SATerp

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                                              • Bonus depreciation and R&D credit both not extended. Little bit surprised by those. There are so many legitimate loopholes to close, those 2 were actually somewhat useful.

                                                  MuddyLake

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                                                • "An Army of Bun - In The Oven"

                                                  Includes video of real soldiers wearing fake breasts and bellies doing PE!!

                                                  Soldiers don fake belly, breasts to better understand pregnant troops' exercise concerns

                                                  This week, 14 noncommissioned officers at Camp Zama took turns wearing the as they stretched, twisted and exercised during a three-day class that teaches them to serve as fitness instructors for pregnant soldiers and new mothers.

                                                  www.stripes.com

                                                    SATerp

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                                                  • When you put them all together in one place, Obama doesn't look quite all that awesome:

                                                    Today there are 88 million working age Americans that are not employed and that are not looking for employment. A record surpassing that of all other Presidents since such figures have been recorded.
                                                    When Barack Obama was elected, the percentage of unemployed Americans who had been out of work for more than 52 weeks was less than 15%. Today, it is above 30%.
                                                    There are 1.2 million fewer jobs in America today than there were when Obama was inaugurated.
                                                    On the day Obama was sworn into office, the number of “long-term unemployed workers” in the United States was approximately 2.6 million. Today, that number is 5.6 million.
                                                    The average duration of unemployment in the United States currently stands at an all-time record high.
                                                    Over the course to date of the Obama administration worker health insurance costs have climbed by 23%.
                                                    During Obama’s tenure as president the average price of a gallon of gasoline in the United States has increased by 90 percent.
                                                    Since Obama took the oath of office home values in the United States have declined by 13 percent.
                                                    New home sales in the U.S. set a brand new all-time record low in 2009, they set a brand new all-time record low again in 2010, and they set yet another all-time record low once again during 2011. Quite the record there, Mister Obama.
                                                    The number of Americans living in ‘poverty’ has risen by more than 6 million under the economic policies of Obama.
                                                    Obama’s Presidenty has witnessed the number of Americans on food stamps increase from 32 million to 46 million.
                                                    The amount of tax payer money that the federal government gives directly to Americans has increased by 32 percent since the advent of the Obama Administration.
                                                    According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the percentage of Americans living in “extreme poverty” has reached an all-time high during Obama’s time in office.
                                                    When Barack Obama was inaugurated, an ounce of gold was trading for about $850. Today an ounce of gold trades at more than $1700 an ounce.
                                                    The size of the U.S. national debt (total owed vice current shortfall) has balooned by 44 percent since Obama took his oath of office.
                                                    During Obama’s first two years in the Oval Office (with a Congress controlled by his party), the U.S. government added more to the U.S. national debt than the first 100 U.S. Congresses combined.
                                                    During the Obama administration, the U.S. government accumulated more debt than it did from the time George Washington took office to the time that George H. W. Bush left office.
                                                    The U.S. national debt has been increasing by an average of more than 4 billion dollars per day since the beginning of the Obama administration.

                                                    How Hath Obama Failed? Let Us Count the Ways | Wizbang

                                                    http://wizbangblog.com/2012/02/20/how-hath-obama-failed-let-us-count-the-ways/

                                                    wizbangblog.com

                                                      SATerp

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