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Defend the NYC sugary drink ban

  • Titanterp said...

    Or my dad's age-old idea of just killing them all. He's been preaching that for years; complaining that if it wasn't for fat people, they wouldn't have to tax his cigarettes...

    They are killing them all. The only reason your dad isn't fat is because of cigarettes.

    SodaTerpinski

  • I was doing a great job understanding this thread until the analogies started flying.

    classlessthug: I have too much on my plate to worry about the fact that my junk intimidates some needle D undergrad.

    eamhokie94

  • eamhokie94 said...

    I was doing a great job understanding this thread until the analogies started flying.

    Yeah, I don't understand any of the analogies. They're horrible and I feel stupider for having read them. Political threads attract bad analogies, like butterflies to a dead possum.

    The country will be better off when BIG YERBA MATE declares its jihad against BIG CORN/BIG SODA.

    MisterSmiley

  • fuzzy510 said...

    One involves being for government intervention into an issue of personal health, and the other involves being AGAINST government intervention into an issue of personal health. The only reason you can't get past the comparison is because the nasty word "abortion" is there.

    so, if you are against the soda ban, you should obviously also be pro choice. just like if you are against having your money going to poor people who dont deserve it, you should not want to pay for fatties healthcare...my point was to point out the ridiculousness of the abortion analogy by throwing out something just as off the wall but i didnt do a good job of articulating...

    This post was edited by BrotherAbstract on 6/1/2012 at 11:54 AM

    BrotherAbstract

  • MisterSmiley said...

    Yeah, I don't understand any of the analogies. They're horrible and I feel stupider for having read them. Political threads attract bad analogies, like butterflies to a dead possum.

    The country will be better off when BIG YERBA MATE declares its jihad against BIG CORN/BIG SODA.

    We're one Hitler reference away from this thread going full on DarrellGreenFan on us.

    classlessthug: I have too much on my plate to worry about the fact that my junk intimidates some needle D undergrad.

    eamhokie94

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    neal990 ●

  • BrotherAbstract said...

    so, if you are against the soda ban, you should obviously also be pro choice. just like if you are against having your money going to poor people who dont deserve it, you should not want to pay for fatties healthcare...my point was to point out the ridiculousness of the abortion analogy by throwing out something just as off the wall but i didnt do a good job of articulating...

    Wat if I am against the ban, paying for poor people, and paying for others health care?

    redraven1

  • here's the bottom line -- we want less or no fat people. deal with it or stay in middle america where being fat is encouraged.

    goterpss

  • g$ trying too hard now after getting no bites on the first attempt

    RDurr

  • Point to be made here: People from the Midwest are fat, amirite?

    classlessthug: I have too much on my plate to worry about the fact that my junk intimidates some needle D undergrad.

    eamhokie94

  • AY YO SODA LETS DO THIS

    Big Yerba Mate

  • eamhokie94 said...

    Point to be made here: People from the Midwest are fat, amirite?

    I'm not sure I can handle the controversy.

    MisterSmiley

  • neal990 said...

    What if some sort of compromise can be reached, like a "middle america zone" is declared. Put a huge fence around times square. Inside that fence, anything goes. Smoking outdoors is allowed. 60 oz Dr. Peppers for everyone. And Olive Garden never-ending pasta flows like wine.

    Hollywood already tried this...

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  • First they came for the cigarettes, and I did not speak out--
    Because I did not smoke cigarettes.

    Then they came for the Happy Meals, and I did not speak out--
    Because I did not eat Happy Meals.

    Then they came for the sodas, and I did not speak out--
    Because I did not drink sodas.

    Then they came for my Dairy Queen Reese's Blizzards--and there was no one left to speak for me...

    "And I try to har-mo-nize with songs the lonesome sparrow sings... There are no kings inside the Gates of Eden."

    dixonownsyou

  • I've never been a fan of bans...on pretty much anything. Tax that crap...provide people incentives and disincentives. Double the price of those sodas. If people are really that desperate for sugar, they will pay (or buy double in smaller sodas). Plus, you get revenue!

    The big difference between tobacco and soda is the public nuisance factor. Drinking a large soda does not actively affect anyone but yourself (in the short run at least). Smoking a cigarette in a public space DOES actively affect other people. Once your actions start affecting others, then banning comes into play, IMHO.

    LeafeeWolf

  • eamhokie94 said...

    Point to be made here: People from the Midwest are fat, amirite?

    Another reason why FSU and Clemson going to the Big XII is ludicrous.

    gurgle

  • BrotherAbstract said...

    so, if you are against the soda ban, you should obviously also be pro choice. just like if you are against having your money going to poor people who dont deserve it, you should not want to pay for fatties healthcare...my point was to point out the ridiculousness of the abortion analogy by throwing out something just as off the wall but i didnt do a good job of articulating...

    Fetus = 32 ounces of Soda!

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  • BrotherAbstract said...

    so, if you are against the soda ban, you should obviously also be pro choice. just like if you are against having your money going to poor people who dont deserve it, you should not want to pay for fatties healthcare...my point was to point out the ridiculousness of the abortion analogy by throwing out something just as off the wall but i didnt do a good job of articulating...

    yes, you should be against the soda ban, and pro-choice, and against your money going to poor people, and you should not want to pay for fatty boom boom's health care.

    Does that answer your question?

    TortugaGrande

  • I agree with Bloomberg's intent, just not with the implementation.

    There should be that sugar and fat tax he talked about previously. The money raised by that tax can go the increased cost of health care caused by those items. If you want it fine, just pre pay your care.

    I know people have joked about the car thing on this thread, but one of the best things Bloomberg has done has made the city much more bike and pedestrian friendly. Broadway is starting to be closed to all drivers, and the main areas are all pedestrian already. The bike share program starting this summer is great as well. This on top of what G$ said about the tolls.

    ColbertRepor

  • neal990 said...

    What if some sort of compromise can be reached, like a "middle america zone" is declared. Put a huge fence around times square. Inside that fence, anything goes. Smoking outdoors is allowed. 60 oz Dr. Peppers for everyone. And Olive Garden never-ending pasta flows like wine.

    It's called Queens

    hgoodman

  • But seriously, this is great news. I'd actually be in favor of banning them for kids, but not for those 18+. If you're an obese adult, it's a personal choice. But if you're an obese kid, it's because you have negligent parents.

    hgoodman

  • there are so many side effects to being fat in a big city -- the health costs, taking up too much space on city subways and buses, etc.

    goterpss

  • hgoodman said...

    It's called Queens

    This.

    balderdash

    ZackGreinkeTerp

  • goterpss said...

    there are so many side effects to being fat in a big city -- the health costs, taking up too much space on city subways and buses, etc.

    I'm not even sure how fat people can even exist in the city. The amount of walking I do on a daily basis is insane.

    balderdash

    ZackGreinkeTerp

  • goterpss said...

    there are so many side effects to being fat in a big city -- the health costs, taking up too much space on city subways and buses, etc.

    Yeah, I'm sure you spend a lot of time on subways and buses.

    MisterSmiley

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