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so my roommates and i have ourselves quite a pickle. we have a lease expiring at a house we've been at for two years on March 31st. apparently we needed to give our property manager 60 days notice in order to terminate the lease on that date....otherwise it goes automatically to a month-to-month. it has been over 2 years since we read the lease and we completely forgot about any of those rules. completely our fault, i know. we knew we were moving out but hadn't found a new place yet, so on february 28th i emailed my landlord asking if he would be OK with a month-to-month if we hadn't found something by March 15th. the only response i got a few days later was that the owner would be willing to do another year at X price. i replied saying we were probably moving out and asked again if we could do a month-to-month. no response. we then started scrambling (thinking we had to get a new place by April 1st) and signed a lease for a new spot this past Monday (with security deposit). we inform the property manager of our new lease and he sends us an email saying we have not given proper notice. i call him and he explains what the lease says and what we have to do in order to terminate the lease or the month-to-month agreement.
so long story short, we're now on the hook for rent at our new spot on April 1st AND rent at our old place for April and May...unless the property manager talks to the owner and figures something out for us. he's a nice guy and i think he's willing to help us...but do we have any out here? we screwed up by not knowing the rules obviously but i was curious to see if anyone knew of any out here or if someone had a similar situation in the past and dealt with it. i think our only option might be to try and get it re-rented to someone else for the next 12 months ASAP.
im sorry i was confusing...your "Superbowl" was the Redskins losing since you know that the Ravens cant win it all.
If it converts to month to month at lease end, I don't see how you can owe for 2 months.
Did Dang break the door again?
2 months = the 60 day notice
Because you go month to month and give the landlord 60 days notice prior to ending the lease.
in the lease it says Baltimore City requires 60 days of notice prior to the last day of the desired final rental month of tenancy.
Can you just tell the new place that you'd like to move in on June 1st?
we signed a lease starting april 1st and paid security deposit plus rent..i don't think he'd be willing to let his place sit for 2 months. that would be great, though.
i see what toogs means. terminating month to month should only require 30 days notice.
the lease is over and you have converted to month to month, the way he worded it.
i agree it should only require 30 days notice but the lease states that Baltimore city requires 60.
dude is a dick if he doesnt take your first contact as the start of the 60 days, but is this the kind of place that would be hard to rent? he only collects that if it stays empty, I think.
Do you think he'd be willing to let you out since you just signed the lease and you look for another house to start renting in June?
that's a good point. if he's truly a nice guy he'll take that as first notice.
wouldn't be a hard place to rent out i don't think. it's a 3 bed 3 bath in canton for a very good price. everything else i've seen like it online is more expensive.
Baltimore City requires the LANDLORD to give 60 days notice. The law has nothing to do with minimum requirements for tenants giving notice, it can be no notice. Moot point because each landlord can make up whatever requirements they want in the lease.
30 days should be more than enough time to find someone else and the landlord is a dick for not letting you out with a 30 day notice.
It is easy for landlords and tenants to end a month-to-month tenancy in Maryland.
that's definitely a possibility but our new place is a chris canty steal so it'd be hard to give up
If you were the landlord, would you want to have the property vacant and not generating money for a month or two because some knuckleheads didn't read the lease and give proper notice? Given him a signed letter of your intent to vacate. He can continue collecting rent from you 60 days from that date (minus the days that were under the original lease).
You're messing with someone's income and he has the authority to enforce his rights to the letter. Go live in the new place, play double rent for a little bit, and learn your lesson. Or, you could find a tenant for him and try to mitigate his losses, paying for only the period it was vacant.
You need to put the landlord in the same financial position as he would have been if you had continued paying rent.
i totally understand the financial side of this for the landlord. i'm not messing with anyone's income or saying that they are wrong.
If they didn't want to be bound by the landlord's notice requirement, they should have bargained for that provision to be changed or omitted (or rented another place elsewhere). They signed the contract.
you're locked into a 3-year deal and will live to regret it 6 months in??
I didn't say anything to the contrary.
Then why are you asking for advice on how to weasel out of an agreement you willingly signed? I mean I guess you can try to settle with the guy, but he doesn't have to be reasonable with you.
All I've ever heard while I was a renter was that Maryland was one of the friendliest states to the tenant in court. If any of that was true, then at worst you could take it to court with reasonable assurance that you'd come out ahead.
To echo what some other people are saying, 30 days is a ton of time for a property management company to find a replacement. I put up a craigslist ad and found people within 5 days in January that could move in by February 1.
Side story: One of those was a smokin' hot nurse who would have been a nice addition to the house...thanks a bunch jdawg for taking her spot.
So why is the landlord a "dick" for protecting his financial stake?
I dont see why you should have to pay for may at your old place. Lease is over march, then becomes "month to month". One month to one month. What was the language in the lease exactly?
He'd be a dick because 1) 30 days is more than enough notice 2) lied about a law to get an extra 30 days 3) responded to their first request to go month to month per the lease with a counter of another year 4) didn't respond to their second request forcing them to sign a new lease and 5) possibly had a quality tenant for the past two years who didn't call over stupid shit and didn't destroy his house and there's no reason to stick it to them now when mistakes were clearly made by both sides.
I'm a landlord and if my tenants came to me about wanting to go month to month following the end of the lease next month and I never actually address their request and they sign a new lease, that's on me (or the property manager. I have found that communication breaks down when things go between tenant -> PM -> owner -> PM - tenant)
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