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So on the news in New York people are pissed that police setup checkpoints at four outlets away from Yankee stadium Friday night. I'm not defending drunk driving, but what happens to probable cause? Is everyone who goes to a baseball game considered a target. Lawyers, how do stops and checkpoints like this hold up in court?
classlessthug: I have too much on my plate to worry about the fact that my junk intimidates some needle D undergrad.
People who drive to Yankee Stadium should be arrested for driving to Yankee Stadium, let alone driving drunk.
The Supreme Court has upheld them in most cases. They have acknowledged that checkpoints detain drivers without any reasonable suspicion of wrongdoing but upheld them anyway. States can pass tighter restrictions if they want, so petition your state or local legislature to protect your rights.
Fuck Drunk Drivers. How hard is it to simply not drive after you get drunk? It's not really difficult since I've never driven drunk.
I went through one coming out of Gtown on Canal Road one night, the cop asked me "what type of cat was Mickey Mouse." I answered, "he's a mouse, not a cat" and the guy passed me right through.
Opposite of Yankee Stadium is in Cincy, where they publish where the checkpoints are going to be in the paper.
SC held that the benefit outweighs an intrusion that they deemed minor (6 to 3)
Drinking and driving is the worst and so easily defeated. I know this the hard way. Don't do it. Think of the friends out there.
Just don't drink and drive. That's what I'd do.
If you are pissed at this you are pos
fuck I hate people
"I like fixing broken things" - Kevin Plank
Yankees fans deserve bad things to happen to them.
Drinking and driving is horrible but exponentially more people get killed by speeding and nobody seems to give a shit. Why the double standard?
I dunno. I know the Bill of Rights gets a bad rap and there's no way any of those amendments would pass today, but I kind of like them. shrug
I am picturing people driving away from the stadium and Yankees fans being directed to veer off the road to a special "checkpoint" and their cars are led directly into a huge trash compactor where they are killed instantly.
That is what I took away from this thread.
There probably isn't a person on these boards who is a bigger fan of the Bill of Rights than me, and I have no problem whatsoever with sobriety checkpoints implemented with proper safeguards and limitations.
The Bill of Rights don't give you carte blanche to use your car when impaired on a public road.
I don't remember much from my criminal law courses but I always remember Michigan vs. Sitz.
Meh. These threads always go the same way, but the MADD definition of drunk or impaired is stupid. Going to jail without actually harming anyone is worse.
Because the percentage of people who get in accidents and seriously injure or kill someone when driving drunk is a shit ton higher than when people speed.
There are about 3 different wrongs things in that post, not the least of which is that no one goes to jail for a first time DUI arrest that didn't cause any harm.
that's not the argument. also, bill of rights is singular.
Phatboy if you had any balls I'd meet you at the AFA Boxing gym and have Coach Weichers put some gloves on us.
5 pages by sunrise.
Sorry for not having perfect grammar on the iPhone.
I don't understand the last sentence here. The BoR don't give you carte blanche to have an illegal gun in your home but that doesn't mean the police can just search it whenever they want. I thought the point was they needed a good reason to think that you were "using your car when impaired on a public road" before they got to search you. Whatever. The thing that confuses me more than anything is why people decide drunk driving is an issue that gets this special consideration wrt legal/illegal searches. We don't do that for issues that are way bigger than drunk driving it seems like.
Why not just have a lot of cops around the problem area and pull over people who are actually driving badly and are therefore dangerous? Instead you needlessly catch a few people who are at .08 and would probably be fine.
And I say this as someone who has literally (correct usage) never driven drunk. I don't even drive if I've had one drink. Not because I'm self-righteous about it but because my mom's brother was killed by a drunk driver and I think she would murder me if I got a DUI plus I weigh like 135 pounds and it's easy for me to get to .08.
This post was edited by BklynTerp 15 months ago
Slight difference between privacy rights within the sanctity of your home and driving on a public street ...
And yes, they do need some individualized suspicion to pull you over for any detailed questioning ...
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