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BTW, is this an appropriate thread to ask about the ethics and effectiveness of hormonal treatment for infants to ensue their heterosexuality and whether medical insurance should cover such treatment?
Just give him female porn at a young age. It's what my dad did to help along hetero tendencies. Apparently worked with this sampling. I love boobs and vagina.
Oh, this isn't my kid. My kid is so hetero that he makes me look like a Morrissey/Erasure/Ryan Reynolds-loving poof... err, nevermind, he's straight and I am pretty much straight too.
A couple of weeks ago we were sitting around drinking and playing dominos with our friends/neighbors and the subject of homosexuality came up and (even though they are very religious) I was a bit surprised when they brought up the whole hormone injection of infant thing. I tried to get us to change the topic back to something less inflammatory.
A small point but your statement stops any reasonable discussion which might take place to change minds. It is acting out on one's "feelings" which may lead someone to horrible status, not just merely thinking it.
This post was edited by tagterp 19 months ago
Just to break this down.
I'm arguing that the LBGT community forces the public to change how they think via political correctness.
Political correctness is a social reaction. You make it sound like a gay person held a gun to UMTerps' head while he typed out "you're a horrible person".
while I do believe it's not a choice, I think the assertion that it's NOT a choice shouldn't be off the table.
I have never really understood this argument. People who are gay say they are born that way. They will describe experiences when they were young which led the to know they were gay. In talking with several friends about it, they describe their coming out process as more of a recognition to their selves that they are gay, but it's something they've always known.
Is this something you've explored a lot? Have you had conversations with gay people or done research online about why this is generally accepted?
On the other hand, why is it always people who are not gay who say it's a choice. How the fuck would they know if they haven't gone through the experiences that come with being gay and coming out?
I am also arguing that if the majority of Americans are going to buy into the LBGT lifestyle as being a matter of being born as such, than other stigmatized things should be 'accepted.' the bondage theme I mentioned in OP being an example.
This borders on absurd. Two normal ass people walking down the street holding hands =/= two not normal ass people walking down the street in clothes you buy at a sex shop. If you can't understand that, then we've identified the problem.
and here's a touchy, no pun intended, subject: pedophiles. are they choosing to be attracted to children?
Once again, if you can't understand the difference between two consenting adults in a committed relationship, versus the sexual exploitation of a child, then there really isn't much point in trying to change your mind. Also, fuck you.
Well,it could be argued that straight people have made the choice to not be gay.
I dunno. I said that "it could be argued" not that I really wanted to make the argument.
I miss Patrice O'Neal.
classlessthug: I have too much on my plate to worry about the fact that my junk intimidates some needle D undergrad.
You "don't know"? Seems like a pretty big decision, I'd think you'd remember something like that.
Well, pretty sure I was born straight, but at certain points I suppose I had the opportunity to have a homosexual encounter but chose not to engage in any of them. If any of those opportunities had involved Ryan Reynolds or Justin Timberlake I may have made a different choice.
LOL at "force their morality on others." One group wants equal rights for everyone, one wants to hide behind religion as the reason for the hate. Not similar at all.
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
can you check in and confirm there are no misstatements nor typos in this before I dissect it?
terpevo's post on the 1st page does a better job of making my point.
Just keep on hating people.
Most people won't mind if you spend your whole life in some *fly-infested, cow-worshiping shanty-town / casino-based ethnic history museum.*
* Actual location depends on answer to dot-feather question.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, that's what makes America great. While ignorant homophobes like the OP are free to express their ignorance, others are entitled to mock and look down on them.
There are things in public that gross everyone out. I'm much more offended by extremely obese or generally lacking in hygiene people than I am by homosexual displays of affection.
My biggest question -- where are you walking where you see people in assless chaps? Have you considered avoiding S&M clubs and LGBT meetings?
im always amazed at how the christian right gets so mad at homosexuals because of their sin when at the same time so many of them are orca fat. isnt gluttony a sin? but you dont hear preachers rail against it.
Doesn't your mockery show an inability to effectively deal with opposing views. Shouldn't we be persuading, not ridiculing?
How about this:
Last summer transgender males with naked boob jobs were cavorting on a beach filled with families with kids asking questions as happened in Rehoboth; is this okay for you? Just trying to find if there is any limit to your tolerance of sexually oriented behavior? Is there anything off limits in public view?
I'm not hg, but I just want to throw in that of course that is not OK. Just like it isn't OK for straight people to walk around naked, cavorting in front of families (unless it's a nude beach or something like that, in which case it's the terrible parents' fault). I would just say that it doesn't really have anything to do with the gender of the people involved.
Mocking awful things like hate (regardless of whether you hide behind religion in your hate or not), Hitler, Duke, etc. is a good thing. Your hypothetical has nothing to do with being accepting of those who lead a homosexual lifestyle.
This belief system is not just made up, but based on specific words in the Christian Bible.
I am suspicious of the origin of these words and their very existence should produce a thought provoking conflict with other tenets of Christianity, ones actually attributed to Christ.
Logically one can argue that these ideas in Leviticus (Old Testament) may not be the word of God, but rather reworked ideas from men, modified numerous times over the millenium. Still they form an obstacle to discussion with fundamental Christians, but the minute we mock someone's beliefs derived from those words, we lose them, and no amount of reason can move them.
Besides mockery is a lazy form of debate, requiring no scholarly preparation nor any hope of success. In other words you might as well eat a can of alpahabet soup as your shit has a better chance of spelling out a more effective argument
You need to think deeper. The object is to convince those who have it wrong to our opinions. Mocking is counter productive, causes defensiveness, slows the progress down, and delays true objective fairness.
Not so. In Rehoboth there was a law prohibiting exposed naked breasts but the law applied to females. These were transgender males. Their behavior, which by any standard, was unacceptable, was permitted until the law gets changed, if it gets changed.
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