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Regardless I think it is an indictment of the Republican National Party that they put forth a Candidate like Mitt Romney who despite all of the failures of his first 4 years will probably lose to Barak Obama. (Probably the wrong thread for this but I wanted to hear others thoughts on this)
Pic Sigs are for losers.
Until the last few years I've always been anti-union. However because of the incredible anti-teacher sentiment which has become so widespread, particularly among policy makers in high-poverty school districts I've changed my position.
Bet ya Obama spends more time there over the next few months than he did in the last two weeks. But hard to bet on >0
Today was the Scott Walker/San Diego Market Rally!
Good post. I think this election will affect public service unions more than it will the outcome of the general election.
I haven't seen anyone express an opinion on why the market shot up today, but in my mind it's because yesterday, public worker unions took a shot of Gus Fring's offered drink.
Um the "Republican National Party" can't just "put forth" whoever it wants as a candidate - otherwise, you'd probably see Paul Ryan or Chris Christie up there right now. You have to make do with who chooses to run, and I don't think any of the other candidates who chose to run would have had a better shot at beating Obama than Romney.
I think the worm turned when folks understood the situation as; My pay hasn't risen over the last several years. I'm paying more for my health care than before and lord knows what kind of care I will be able to obtain when I retire, and at what cost. My retirement plan hasn't gone up and I proly wont have the type of retirement I was looking forward to having. Look at these public employees whose pay HAS RISEN while mine hasn't. These folks are getting to retire at 55 w/ lifetime incomes close to what they live on now. They will get lifetime health care. And I am the one who is footing the bill for all of this and my govenor tells me that I will have to pay higher taxes so that these folks can keep their expanding benefits?
I was laughing the other day when I saw part of Gray's DC budget proposal is to pay back workers for furlough days from 2-3 years ago. The council has shot it down 3 times but he's bringing it back again. Tough shit for them.
I know in Fairfax County the teachers are getting their first raise in 3 years with the new budget. But a lot of posts are right in this thread, union folks are going to have to learn that nothing comes for free. It's going to be real interesting to see O'Malley push the pension obligation back on the counties, certainly MoCo/PG/Baltimore have some financial expertise to attempt to handle it, but I worry about Garrett and some of the Eastern Shore counties who may not. .
when it comes to high-poverty school districts, I am much more anti-parent than I am anti-teacher union. But we cannot take kids out of the their homes too easily, so might as well give the schools as much competition as possible.
[WaitingForHogie]Just make sure all those poor kids get a great education, that's what I would do.[/WaitingForHogie]
"And I try to har-mo-nize with songs the lonesome sparrow sings...
There are no kings inside the Gates of Eden."
There is an irony in this. Mitt (and John McCain) are the type of candidate that independents and Dems always say they want. Mitt is pretty centerist as Pubs go. He was a Gov. of a pretty blue state. Sure...he has "flip flopped" on some issues to get elected....every does it (Mitt, Kerry, Obama, etc. etc.). I dont think anyone really thinks Mitt is a far right candidate. Neither was McCain. He was the maverick moderate.
In actuality...its the harder right guys (Reagan and Bush) who end up winning.
In this hyper partisan, internet and 24 news cycle era we live in.....everyone was going to get this treatment. Obama had a short window if "love" because he had (1) very little record; (2) was great at selling the hope change, and post partisan crap; (3) there were limits to the attacks based on his race because media could/would only go so far; (4) Bush and War fatigue.
This election is just returning to the 2000 and 2004 norm of very close, deeply divided elections.
Maybe I'm missing your point, but Barone's analysis considered a 51%-45% spread.
In theory I agree with this, but in reality nobody wants to teach in these schools anyhow and the new and incredibly arbitrary teacher evaluations are just making good teachers with options flee to the suburbs/good schools/other professions that much sooner.
One more year to get my loan forgiveness and I'm out.
Isn't his more symbolic than anything since they are not in session and won't be until after the Nov election where it is expected the republicans, because of redistricting are expected to take it right back? I don't believe anything can happen on 'control' until they are in session?
Though taking control of the Senate would be a huge moral victory for the Democrats, they won't be able to do much with it, at least for a while. The Legislature isn't scheduled to convene again until January, and Democrats will have to defend their majority in November's elections.
Good investment by the Democrats. Spend millions taking one seat in a chamber that won't meet until after the next election. I encourage that.
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This may only last until November, when the Pubs believe they have an excellent shot to pick up two seats.
RichLowry Rendell at bloomberg right now: sounding not sure obama will PA, "its definitely in play"
Hmmmm ... is this what Rendell really believes or is hoping the Romney team will waste money in PA?
PA isn't in play until a Romney(or any other R candidate is +5 or more in the polls). It is an odd 'purple state where it has a hard time voting for a R Pres but has a R controlled legislature and will vote for R Senators.
I've seen a few Obama ads in PA so far. I don't think I have seen any Romney ads. There was that billboard I posted in the other thread that declares Pennsylvania part of the "Obama No Jobs Zone." I think that is sponsored by Viper's superpac
That's what I have been reading too. One of the most underrated aspects of the 2010-2012 GOP resurgence is how redistricting is going to give the party an unseen advantage in elections, at least until the next census.
Not so fast. As it turns out, labor unions spent an additional $21 million on the recall election. When it came to state senate recall elections back in September 2011, Democrats outspent Republicans $23.4 million to $20.5 million.
While Politico’s Glenn Thrush says that there’s “only one paragraph you really need to read this ayem, courtesy of the Center for Public Integrity,” then quotes a paragraph talking about Walker’s biggest donors, that’s hackish reporting. The CPI actually adds:
Campaign contributions tell only part of the story. National unions have kept Barrett’s campaign alive by funding outside groups dedicated to defeating Walker. More than a year since Walker limited collective bargaining rights for most public employees, the nation’s three largest public unions — the National Education Association (NEA), American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), and the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) — have channeled at least $2 million from their treasuries and super PACs to two Wisconsin-based independent expenditure groups.
It’s also worth noting that while Republicans largely had to build their ground game from the ground up, labor unions have a consistent ground game – funded by tax dollars. All of the donations to Walker and pro-Walker groups were not mandated. The same is not true of Big Labor dollars, which come from mandatory unions dues in most cases.
In terms of strict numbers, Walker spent some $30 million; Barrett and the unions spent $25 million. That’s not a 7-to-1 differential. And when you add in unions’ inherent advantage in ground game, you’re talking about a better-than-even split for Barrett.
The spin from the left on the morning after their disastrous Wisconsin recall election failure is that Governor Scott Walker (R-WI), who walked away with the election, did so because he spent oodles of money.
The other side does not deal in facts. They still think Obama has an 8 point lead in WI based on the exit polls. Yeah the same exit polls that said the recall election was way too close to call. He won WI well into double digits in 2008, now its basically a toss up. Team O is in deep shit, they know it, but got to keep a poker face.
Due to the same reasons you noted above, teachers are fleeing the well-to-do suburb schools as well. Education is a s*it show right now and it's not because of Obama or Bush, it's because of the administrators who have grand ideas but have never actually taught in a classroom so they don't realize how dumb their policies are (according to my wife who wants out). But this discussion is probably better suited for a different thread.
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