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So Pew Research came out with a poll yesterday that indicated 52% of Americans now think weed should be legal. Colorado and Washington have already made it legal. Many other states have Medical MJ. The issue is becoming more and more bi-partisan and it seems like a "tipping point" may have been reached in terms of public attitudes. How long do you think before weed is legal everywhere in the U.S.? 5 years?
not soon enough.
They should legalize every drug (weed, cocaine, heroin, steroids, etc.).
Actually, I came across some discussion of herniated disk cures and was surprised that HGH apparently/allegedly isn't a controlled substance and you can just order it online from gensci.
I'm pretty sure HGH is widely prescribed for injury recovery for non-professional athletes.
This is correct. The damage being done by the prohibition is far greater than the damage being done on society as a whole by the use on its own. For every one life ruined by heroin use, tens more are being wrecked globally because of the process, transportation and sale in the black market. Let's let that one person ruin their life anyway, and spare the collateral damage.
Don't even need to be injured. You can go to a Dr. in columbia and get on a preventive, anti-aging HGH program. Cost you $10k/year because insurance doesn't cover.
FHC (Brazil), Zedillo (Mexico), and Gaviria (Colombia) are all former South American presidents who wrote headed up a committee that wrote a really solid report on regulation/legalization and the effects that the war on drugs and prohibition were having on Latin America.
Full report: http://www.drogasedemocracia.org/Arquivos/livro_ingles_02.pdf
It's not as long as it looks. Easy read.
Article/op ed that sums up the report: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/fernando-henrique-cardoso/drugs-the-debate-goes-mai_b_1411413.html
All three of these guys were extraordinary leaders of their nations in different ways, but they all have always had my respect, and this solidifies it.
The guy with the herniated disc that he ordered it without a prescription, even. Not sure how he knew how much to inject and how frequently, though.
420 will be legal for recreational use in Maryland within our lifetime, probably w/i the next 10 years. I think it was recently decriminalized in Mary;and where you can't even get in trouble for possessing <10g, civil fine only.
And yeah, I guess I could apologize for derailing this thread, but it's really about the 50th time we've done this.
what? no way!
Researchers shift their focus to brain cells said to play a key role in memory formation.
It really runs counter to logic that alcohol is legal yet marijuana is not.
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
And we can finally stop calling Colfax an illegal.
classlessthug: I have too much on my plate to worry about the fact that my junk intimidates some needle D undergrad.
The attack on marijuana is a violation of both natural law and religion. God made all the plants of the Earth for man's use. How dare we question God.
I have never smoked marijuana once in my life and even I don't mind legalizing it.
wow. I have never thought of you as a boring square white dude, but this post confirms that viewpoint.
This post was edited by Coltsfan1832 12 months ago
Smoking in general has never been my thing. An occasional golf cigar and a party cigarette with my wife and that's about it. Still, I don't judge. I watched the UNC/Maryland game a few years back with a handful of posters passing a vaporizer around.
maybe decriminalize it but i don't see how legalizing it is a good thing for humanity. More people getting high? Even though it's not as bad as tobacco or alcohol it certainly isn't harmless like some claim.
Libs/people for it why am I wrong?
I'm not very knowledgeable on the issue and i'm definitely not firm in my stance so I'm looking for both arguments.
At the very least, decriminalization as an intermediate step sooner rather than later.
"And I try to har-mo-nize with songs the lonesome sparrow sings...
There are no kings inside the Gates of Eden."
With the price of tobacco in the shitter, lets just say I'm unzipped and waiting.
Think about it this way, in this tough economic times, jobs are harder to come by. If your competition is...just a little...ya know...slower....that's not a bad thing, right?
My thoughts on possible arguments for legalization:
1.) General libertarian grounds: the state should focus on a limited number of things, none of which include what individuals freely decide to put in their bodies. Legalization in this case does not imply state approval of the substances (the Buckley argument) or the moral correctness of doing drugs, in the same way that being allowed to vote for [insert whichever politician/party you hate here] doesn't imply state approval of said person.
2.) "The cure is worse than the disease," piggybacking off James Madison. The war on drugs was a noble experiment, but has brought on far worse consequences than the bad things it set out to ban. Better to recognize that fact, legalize the substances, and regulate/tax them in the same way you would any manufactured substance. Regulating the substances could help improve product control, safety, etc.
3.) Treating drug addiction as a medical issue is a more humane way than treating it as an issue for the criminal justice system. People will always do drugs, but prison is an ineffective way (morally, financially) to rehabilitate sick people.
Possible arguments for keeping drugs illegal:
1.) "Softer" drugs as a gateway to harder drugs (marijuana to cocaine, opioids, etc.)
2.) Legalization will lead to a spike in casual drug use, and thus some not-insignificant subset will become addicted.
3.) The Platonic argument that it is in fact the government's duty to cultivate virtue in its citizens, and giving explicit or implicit sanctions to drugs saps that ability. Furthermore, it saps citizens' ability to be good, productive, virtuous, etc.
Well, yeah...all of that too.
[dude] Like man, I forgot. [/dude}
Are there any stats out there about how many deaths/ severe accidents are a direct or indirect result of driving and getting high?
If someone is suspected for driving while high, how can the court system prove that someone is high while driving?
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