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Yes, I believe cloture will get the necessary votes. For example, although Susan Collins says she is now a "no" on Hagel, she's still a "yes" on cloture. There's a few others (e.g., Thad Cochran and likely Lisa Murkowski) that are "yes" on Hagel that will probably be "yes" on cloture. It will be close but I suspect it will get the necessary votes to end debate. Not a slam dunk but I think it will happen.
This post was edited by Bradleyfan 14 months ago
I agree with your underlying point -- I was just struck by your comment that you'd bet it would be closer than the other example you cited. I think you need 60 votes, and the prior guy got 61. Closer than that would be EXACTLY 60, which seems like an odd thing to be confident about.
You're too easy to troll.
And you're just the troll who can do it.
I guess the better way to put it is I expect the Hagel nomination will probably get around 38/39/40 votes against closing debate as oppsed to the 37 votes that Johnson received. Anyway, you clearly get my basic point.
Kerry's wife just got multitudes richer than she already is.
H.J. Heinz Co. says it agreed to be acquired by an investment group including billionaire investor Warren Buffett in a deal valued at $28 billion.
The ketchup company says it’s the largest deal ever in the food industry. Heinz shareholders will receive $72.50 in cash for each share of common stock they own. The transaction value includes the assumption of Heinz’s debt. Based on Heinz’s number of shares outstanding, the deal is worth $23.3 billion excluding debt.
WE GETTIN KETCHUP MONEY
Just wait for the exec order that exempts the Sec of State from the taxes on the "rich." He's going to spend a fortune on accountants to minimize the tax bite on this, all cash offer at $72.50 and her cost basis has to be below $10.
Pretty funny that the WaPo story makes no mention of Theresa or John. If this were the Bush family it would be front page above the fold in print and plastered all over the .com site.
What a gift it would be if somehow Kerry got busted for insider trading on this. Please God, just once.
This post was edited by sugarmag 14 months ago
"Reid suggested that Democrats do not have 60 votes at this time to overcome Republican objections, leaving the nomination in limbo ahead of next week's Senate recess."
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid announced Thursday that Republicans have informed him that they plan to block Chuck Hagels nomination to be the next secretary of Defense over demands for more information from the White House. Reid suggested that Democrats do not have 60 votes at this time to overcome Republican objections, leaving the nomination...
On February 7, Breitbart News's Editor-at-Large Ben Shapiro published an explosive-looking story under the headline one of...
LOL, head over to WaPo.com, of which Warren Buffet is a board member, and see if it makes any mention of Theresa Heinz Kerry or John Kerry having anything to do with Heinz, Inc.
Is Matthews still slurping Obama and ranting against Rubio about the SOTU? Liberals trying to show there's no bias are hilarious.
Breitbart is a conservative website -- so stipulated.
It really is hilarious.
Is there something controversial about selling a business for profit? This is the second day in a row you've said something vaguely anti-capitalist. That means that if you were President Obama, I'd have to spend the next 4 years of my life working those two quotes into every post I made. It also makes you Kenyan.
Just pointing out the hypocrisy. If it were the Bush family who owned Heinz it would be in flashing lights on the WaPo website.
And of course there's nothing wrong with selling a business for a profit. But on the campaign (which he's still on by the way) Obama was so scornful of successful people it was ludicrous.
Gore had the smarts to accelorate his deal to close before 12/31/12 to avoid the increased cap gains tax. Then again Kerry got caught trying (unsuccessfully) to hide his new sailing yacht out of Mass to avoid sales taxes. He is not very clever about tax avoidance.
While is wife has much of her non-heinz investment money in Mass Munis and is paying no taxes on any of the income, this long term capital gain on her Heinz stock one will be tough to duck.
This post was edited by tagterp 14 months ago
By my best guess the family owns about 4% of the company. I think they're in AMT land with this one.
Looks like the debate continues on Hagel. Pubs -- Collins, Cochran, Murkowski, Hohanns and Dem -- Harry Reid (so he can reopen cloture vote again at later date) vote to continue the discussion.
Apparently Reid was okay with delaying the vote but WH wanted it to happen today.
Michele Flournoy come on down?
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Bradleyfan 14 months ago
58 to 40, with one "present" vote. Nomination blocked.
Filibustering a Defense Secretary during a time of war. Nurepublican.
Fuck those worthless assholes. If they block him again, nominate Susan fucking Rice.
Dems filibustered Bolton (Ambassador to UN) during time of two wars. Plus, Panetta has said he will stay until someone [competent] is confirmed. Hopefully, Obama will now ask Hagel to withdraw and nominate Michele Flournoy.
LOL at chicken hawk Democrat apologists here.
do you know what that word means?
Or Obama could just nominate someone competent like Michele Flournoy.
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