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Figured all these nominations.confirmations deserved their own thread.
I'm giddy with anticipation of what Creamsicle will do with this
That's like saying you're excited about breakfast because you are getting a bowl of cracklin' oat bran, or the Presidency because Romney is your candidate.
so we may have a traitor and an antisemite in two of the most important positions in our government. about what i expect from this administration
NYCTerp is now OCTerp
You think Hagel is an anti-semite?? I for one would welcome a fresh perspective and not being so 100% beholden to Israel.
[justerp]You guys act like this matters.[/justerp]
"It's just so hard," Greivis said. "It's my heart, my love. Maryland made me who I am."
I really like the Hagel pick
Obama should have just picked Ash Carter for SecDef. Not sure why you want to pick a fight for a middling candidate.
This. Plus I think a lot of the R opposition comes from Hagel's transformation as the Iraq War progressed. He had the background and credibility to denounce the line of neocon thinking that got us into Iraq and kept us there, and they haven't forgotten his opposition as the war went on.
What's middling about him?
I do not support the Hagel nomination. I hope that a bipartisan team of US Senators will step up and defeat it.
Just relatively speaking. I think Ash Carter and Flournoy (to a lesser extent) know the Pentagon better and would have been better choices.
Plus, the next SecDef is going to have to spend A LOT of their time working with Congress on sequestration/budget issues, so I'm not sure why you'd want somebody with strained connections to the hill. On a similar note, Carter knows the defense budget about as well as anybody.
He's not really "middling" in an absolute sense, but I think he's a worse choice and more pain than either of those two.
I felt the same way about Rice, before her nomination was pulled. Too much pain and wasted political capital when there are other candidates who are just as good anyway.
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It's one thing to criticize Israel policy. That's completely valid. It's another to use the word "Jewish Lobby," which is blatantly anti-Semitic.
The guy is just a douche who constantly offends.
I think one of the best, valid criticisms of Obama is that he is too loyal to his inner circle and doesn't care to listen to what his allies on the Hill and elsewhere tell him.
Multiple Purple Heart recipient for Sec. of State; multiple Purple Heart recipient for Sec. of Defense; major proponent of enhanced interrogation techniques for CIA Director....
I'm curious as to the next mental midget Obama hires as Treasury Secretary.
Obama's been anti-Israel from pretty much the get-go, the selection of Hagel shouldn't be surprising to any
Lol how is "jewish lobby" anti semitic?
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That's absolutely ridiculous.
because there isn't a "Jewish Lobby." There are pro-Israel lobbyists and the anti-defamation league which focuses on bigotry towards Jews. To lump those two together is at best intellectually unsophisticated and usually (italicized) the result of anti-semitism on the user.
If you need this explained to you, than it's not worth explaining to you.
So what you're saying is that the guy who actually fought in a war oppossed the war started by those who never did and they've held a grudge. In another note of irony, the Washington Times has a full page add sponsored by the Log Cabin Repubs oppossed to Hagel based on homophobic remarks he's made over the years.
Is it a throwaway comment confusing the Israel lobby with the "Jewish" lobby that's the thing, or is it that he doesn't fall in line with whatever Israel wants like most of our gov't does?
Actually Israel isn't really that worried about Hagel. That's why AIPAC hasn't really weighed into this fight and multiple high level government sources from Israel have stated that they don't oppose Hagel's nomination.
It's coming from domestic Jewish Organizations like the ADL.
Hagel made more than one "throwaway comment" towards other groups. The gay and lesbian lobby is up in arms too on this one.
The Republicans drummed Buchanan out of the spotlight, if not out of the party, for his "Amen Corner" remark in a speech. Although Buckley urged people to vote for him in '92 in New Hampshire to push Bush Sr. more conservative.
"In Search of Anti-Semitism" is a great little book/long essay by Buckley, btw.
"And I try to har-mo-nize with songs the lonesome sparrow sings...
There are no kings inside the Gates of Eden."
Another thing I don't like about Obama is that we have real issues that need to be addressed domestically like gun control and he is using up some of his political clout on this fight. He needs to get his prorities in order!
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