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Well I mean religious people can just argue a world with free will is "better" than a world with no free will thus shitty stuff happens...natural evil on the other hand is harder to explain away.
God needs more guns.
Just trying to tie this thread together :couch
If those kids had guns maybe the gunmen would have been stopped!
Actually, the solution is pretty simple (in my simple mind.) Get rid of one or two worthless administrators at ever school and replace them with one or two armed security guards.
Every ten minutes Fox News has a reporter come on and say: "Adam Lanza woke up this morning, and got his mother's gun...bla bla bla".
Now I can't get this song out of my head:
The sopranos intro with A3 theme.
There are other countries, even other languages, and sometimes, somewhere, they dub films and tv series. Yeah, they dare to do that. That's not funny. It can be weird to hear characters in other languages, that's true, but is stupid to point it out for the umpteenth time.
I don't think anyone would disagree with you on either point and I think that's a very reasonable way of thinking about the issue.
My problem is with the hyper partisan liberal types who seem to not be letting a good tragedy go to waste. Using the mass murder of 20 children to justify pushing one of their pet political issue literally hours after it happens just seems creepy and self serving to me. The bodies were still warm and MSNBC was already discussing the "political capital" this could bring Democrats.
So there you have it. That didn't take too long.
What's this thread for?
That would also work for every mall, church, movie theater, grocery parking lot, and college class building too I think.
Well, that may be part of it (didn't watch link,) but I think a larger part is that society has become more violent in the last 50 years (witness the video games and movies our kids enjoy,) and that two parent families seem to be the exception instead of the norm. Consider that in the 1950s kids took rifles to school with them because they were members of rifle teams.
It's about two pages away from becoming the new Randomness thread, I think.
classlessthug: I have too much on my plate to worry about the fact that my junk intimidates some needle D undergrad.
Um, no, but CCW would work for those.
Everyone's mental health issues, apparently.
I agree, He sure was absent for those little kids today, wasn't he?
Or do we need more guns to protect us from God?
On Facebook today some lady i know turned this tragedy into a complaint about Maryland's casinos taking money away from school security. Removed from feed.
Im ready for aa 5th of vodica to end my feels.
Whoa, back up there. That's a segue I gotta hear.
Has enough time passed since Virginia Tech, CO., or Oregon? Too soon?
To lazy to open my laptop for the screen grab, but that's it. No segue. Just pure ignorance.
Does KneeJerkTerp still post these days?
While I wouldn't call these shootings "commonplace", I get your point.
As for preventing this from happening in the future...well, how many tragic things have we ever been able to prevent from happening in the future? None that I can think of, off the top of my head. Even plane/train/car accidents, with no malice involved, still happen. But with malice in the equation like in a mass shooting, there's a motivated nutjob trying to make it happen, so it seems even less likely we can prevent this than accidents.
So let's lay it all out on the table (not directing this at you, just in general) and stop hiding behind these euphemisms like "let's have a discussion about guns". Face it, the only possible gun control measure that has even the slightest possibility of achieving desired results is banning all guns. Even then, some are going to slip through the cracks, like they do in the gun control countries in Europe.
It scares me to think there are still some people who think if we disarm people who aren't breaking the law, somehow the criminals will magically follow suit. That's ridiculous, but I think most people here know this.
At some point, trying to enforce this becomes more problematic, the farther you push it. If we can't even end accidents, we're never going to ban free will.
Is your point that the presence of security guards would deter the shooter from even attempting something out of fear they would be shot themselves? Because most of these guys (how come it's always males?) pretty much expect to end their life or be shot now and they still do it. Or is it that the security guard will be able to limit the damage. so that only 3 or 4 people get shot instead of 20? That's an improvement, but doesn't seem like a "solution." And what happens if the shooter is able to kill the security guard?
I agree. It's kind of an all or nothing in my view. If you don't ban all guns, everything else is just tinkering around the edges. Now, I don't agree (if you're saying this) that just because some guns may slip through the cracks Europe and we will still have high-profile mass killings like this, not to mention deaths from other causes like car crashes, that makes the argument for banning all guns invalid. If you can reduce significantly the number of deaths from high-profile events like this as well as all the other gun violence we have, even if we can't eliminate them entirely, that's still a powerful argument for the "ban all guns" view IMO.
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