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If you feel the need to spout off about gun control, this is the place for it. The one and only place. Go.
And I assume this would be the place to "spout off" about the second amendment, liberals calling for gun control, the right to keep an arsenal in your house and a chinese attack that left no one dead.
Is this for people arguing about gun control, or about gun control threads? I'm somewhat ambivalent about the first, but strongly in favor of the second (so that I don't have to read them).
Both is fine, this thread is open to anything, including non-idiots. The point I think is clear--people don't want that discussion in the Newtown thread
For such a time as this.
Hai guys we shouldn't be talking about guns at all...at least according to my facebook feed: (excerpt of a super long rant)
"While we can ban guns, we need to further protect and institute our countries and others. While it may be a large cost and request, the life of a human is priceless. I firmly believe President Obama needs to institute a larger security like that of a metal detector, to stop further advancement into an institution, in order to stop instances like these from happening. Every time a horrible issue likes this occurs, we come together to support each other, but nothing larger of a solution is made. I am only one voice but I think this should be heard."
We just need to institute larger security like metal detectors...duh
Policy discussions are best held in the context of rational discourse. All sides must be weighed to understand not just the intended impact, but the secondary and tertiary impacts as well. The immediate aftermath of a tragedy is a difficult time for everyone and by its very nature, creates an emotional environment. This emotional environment is not the space where policy debates should be taking place.
This post was edited by sohlman6 16 months ago
My facebook feed is unbearable today. I hate the natural response people have to tragedies like this to immediately opine about various facets of the gun control argument on FB. This has been a complicated, contentious issue for the better part of a century, so thanks for thinking your opinion is novel in any way!
I understand the kneejerk reaction to want new laws, but I don't see a gun control law could have helped prevent today. The shooter used guns he did not own and legally could not own. He had all the time he wanted and clearly reloaded many times, so I don't see restrictions on magazine sizes being an effective measure. He used a bit over 100 rounds so limitations on bulk ammunition purchases would not have helped. (Plus he have have taken the guns and ammo together)
God I'm afraid of diving into this thread. Could be one of my worst ideas. I don't want to get all 'BAN ALL THE GUNZ' and would just like to have a legit conversation about this subject (again, not sure if that's possible, but we'll see).
Can we agree that:
1. Situations like today are unbearable and awful and should not be experienced by anyone?
2. These public shootings are becoming a little too common place
If you agree on 1 and 2 - the natural question is, how do you (if you can) prevent this from happening in the future?
If you're so smart, why aren't you rich?
see sohlman's post above. Or have at it, I don't care.
You want to stop gun crime, make it a crime to not own a gun. If everyone had one, no one would shoot. If it worked in the cold war, it can work in America.
couldnt agree with you more. anyone without a gun is a sitting duck. law abidign citizens like me are screwed
NYCTerp is now OCTerp
Noted. Will come back in two days
While I favor some type of gun control, I feel it will do no good.
Where can we discuss this tragedy in terms of the obvious absence of God? (Not a joke.)
classlessthug: I have too much on my plate to worry about the fact that my junk intimidates some needle D undergrad.
I think this can be the thread for any side discussions spawning from the Newtown tragedy.
Here is fine for that as well
Expand on this
God doesn't exist.
Hey now, that's not fair.
God could exist and he's just evil and twisted.
Because if he did exist, how/ why would he let something like this happen?
Of all the arguments against God, human evil is probably the least convincing.
Brandon Banks may be the worst kick returner in the league. That doesn't mean he's not a kick returner.
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