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I have the Samsung led and two years in it developed a strobe effect where the picture flickered. U tube has a video that I followed to cut a wire and correct it. Works fine but I won't be buying Samsung again. The problem is really common.
Ignore how they look in the store. Do some research on crutchfield. If its for a room with windows and a lot of ambient light, led is the way to go. If its for your basement, I'd buy plasma. Bought 60" LG LM7200 LED a few months ago for a room with a lot of windows and ambient light over comparable Samsungs, very happy. I shied away from the Sammy's because they all have super glossy panels now, which is worse for a room with a lot of ambient light. Any of the LG LM series tvs are great. If you're not as particular and want to save some coin, Vizio makes a good budget LED.
Cool design, outstanding picture Sporting one of the thinnest bezels wes most striking TVs.
More great replies, I am real confused now.
I will check the LG listed by 34wassmooth.
The LG 55LM6700 is on list now, it has •TruMotion 120Hz refresh rate for clear video motion
but is this 240 MHZ ?
I have an LG now and it is excellent for kitchen, but LED, 32 inch.
My other TVS are Samsung HDTV slimfit HD tube tvs, one is 42 and other 27. One will go in bsaemant and other in a spare bedroom. The pictures are superb, and since tubes I was told I will not get a better picture period. However, due to weight and cost to make they were discontinued, I bought both at Circuit City in Rockville which is now HH Gregg.
Also, I will check Cutchfield.
The TV is for living room on backside of house, trees in back, and I think I am getting wood shutters for windows,
As mentioned I watch most tv at night.
The Samsung LED scares me now, I have heard of issues with blacks and blurring on sides.
Now the 2 tvs are Panasonic Plasma and the LG LG 55LM6700
oh dear lord.
I'll try to address this fully tomorrow.
please do, I am very confused on which to get.
I am looking at getting a new one too and i am glad this thread was started. I am looking at the Samsung 51 class plasma 1080p 600Hz HDTV. Best Buy has a sale that ends this Saturday that has this one for $599 which is a great price. My only issue is that i will also use this TV to play xbox live on and i have heard that the bigger TV are not good for that. But, i figure with the refresh rate of a plasma it can not be that bad. Any help would be great.
Samsung ships out a lot of bad TV's... a major issue since their service quality is not very good.
What does PQ mean? Same as QPR? I'd argue Vizio has the highest QPR out there.
I'm not arguing against bells and whistles if that's his thing.
Oh, PQ= picture quality. Eh, I disagree to an extent. People often say the picture on my shitty vizio is as good as their much more expensive TV. I'm turning the world into Vizio buyers, one at a time. I am sure there is something subtle that like 5 percent of the population notices.
This post was edited by TortugaGrande 14 months ago
Samsung Customer assistance was shameful and tried to sell me a new motherboard for a two year-old tv that cost over 600.00. I got a guy on the line who denied the problem even though it has been documented all over the net and a youtube video dealing with the problem has thousands of hits. F*ck Samsung. I was able to fix it by clipping a wire but I'll never buy their shit again. Check out the video. If you go Samsung LCD beware as this is very common.
http://www.howtorepairtv.com Tv repair videos and tips.
You can get 240MHZ refresh rate in the LM series. Just need to step up to a higher model. Same for other bells and whistles, like the number of HDMI connections. You can filter on your desired features at crutchfield.
To me, plasma vs LED is a threshold question before brand and model. If it's going in a dark room, I'd go plasma without thinking twice. Plasma picture quality way outperforms LED, dollar for dollar. I have a Panasonic Plasma in my basement and love it. You'll be happy with any of the LM series. I'd pay a little more for a higher end LM series, but that's an individual preference thing. I have the 7200 series, which I believe was discontinued and is basically now the LM7600. It's basically their best picture quality LED, but you don't get every bell and whistle, which was fine for my needs.
These high-performance LCD TVs use energy-efficient LED backlighting for stunning picture contrast and accurate colors.
This post was edited by 34wassmooth 14 months ago
We are looking at those 55" Samsungs, and are dealing with Mahogony (the home installation group) at Best Buys in Rockyville. They've been really good so far, sent 2 guys out to our house last week to survey things and make sure they could mount it on the wall we want to use which is plaster over cinderblock.
The guy is telling us that next year Samsung will have a voice activated system that enables me to just say "Golf Channel" and it will tune that in. He says that Samsung will give us a free upgrade to that in the 8000 series I think. I will be there tomorrow night and can get more details on that or if you want me to ask them anything for you let me know.
JUST took time to read many of your comments and GLAD I DID, will re-eval the choice tomorrow
This post was edited by ConGOTERPS 14 months ago
I've read the Samsung "Smart TV" functions need work. They have voice and hand activation features that are more frustrating than functional..especially the hand activation. Not sure how the voice activation will work with your cable box/programming.
I believe the later models do have the ability to accept firmware upgrades, which is nice.
You don't have to do what I'm doing, but I am waiting for the Samsung F series to come out and see if they actually improved their uniformity and black level issues (Cinema Black is what they call it).
I will also note that NOD is 10 times the expert I am on these things. I tend to immerse myself when I'm shopping and have a pretty good understanding of this, but NOD is a videophile.
You'll be happy. Just do it.
No. This is jtp's doing. He's kept me around for his bizarre HOF resume.
I was at BEst Buy in Rockville and got same speech. I am not going the Samsung route now because of too many bad reviews.
All comments on here are excellent.
The cheap route and going to Cotsco is great idea.
I am down to Panasonic Plasma , the ones mentioned here.
The LG LED with 240 MHZ, 34wassmooth
Biq Question is Extended warranty? Is it worth it
Sorry, but Panasonic plasmas are going to blow LG LEDs out of the water on both price and PQ. If we're talking LED, I would buy Samsung over LG. Samsung has issues, but the research I've done shows LG has them possibly worse. If you want what I think is a can't miss, take the Panasonic 55ST50. I've had a problem free Panasonic plasma for 5 years.
It also depends on what you are doing with the display. Watching TV/movies? Go plasma. Gaming? LCD/LED might be your best bet. Regardless, the best quality/price ratio is easily a plasma and Panasonic has been building the best affordable plasmas out there...in my opinion.
I went back to Best Buy yesterday in Mahagony section as CON GoTerps did. When I first went I saId I wanted 55 inch LED, and they recomended the Samsung.
Yesterday I compared the Panasonic Plasma the one for qaround 2k, with the Samsung 8000.
As mentioned LED gets brighter picture and the Plasma is darker, However, I was comparing a basketball game and the floor looked natural in Plasma and whitewashed in the LED.
Also, with lights dimmed the LED hurt my eyes, I know you can adjust picture and calibrate.
It is confusing on which I like best.
My friend has a 55 inch LED Smasung he got from Cotsco last year for $1300.00 and loves it. But no 3D. I was wondering if the 3D added option & auto dimming was affecting the black levels. My question is is possible my friends Samsung LED from alst year have a better picture than the current Samsung 8000 with 3D?
I need to look at it again.
In summary I am confused as heck.
Low price $1269.00
The good: The affordable Panasonic TC-PST50 series exhibited outstanding overall picture quality, characterized by exceedingly deep black levels with great shadow detail, accurate colors, and solid bright-room performance. Unlike LCDs, as a plasma it has superb off-angle and uniformity characteristics. The styling is attractive and the feature set well-chosen, including excellent onscreen help options.
The bad: The ST50 uses more power than competing LCD TVs, and doesn't perform as well in bright rooms as those with matte screens. It doesn't come with 3D glasses, and it showed more crosstalk in 3D than some competing TVs. The ST50 is only available in 50-inch and larger sizes. Three HDMI inputs is one fewer than most midrange TVs offer.
The bottom line: With flagship-level picture quality for a midlevel price, the Panasonic ST50 series sets the value standard among videophile-grade TVs.
This post was edited by JLK33 14 months ago
jesus that's a steal
Ya I'm actually thinking about pulling the trigger on it. I don't need it at all but I could totally use it in my man cave and move the 47 inch LG to the bedroom.
i think that is the same price at Best Buy for that same TV through Saturday too.
EDIT: never mind it is the 50" version of that same TV for the same price.
This post was edited by coastalTerp 14 months ago
Agree Plasma > LED if you're putting it in a relatively glare free room. My son has his PS3 hooked up to the 55" Panasonic Plasma and no issues. The PQ on plasma is so much more realistic than LED. That said, if you're putting it in a bright room LED is the way to go. Personally, I think the LG's are a better product right now than the Sammys.
I don't buy them. It always seems like the cost just outweighs the benefit to me. Paying $300 for an extended warranty is just too much when the replacement cost is ~ $1,200. If you lose a few pixels in an LED within the first 3 years you'll wish you had the warranty. I've had an LCD for 5+ years w/no dead pixels, so I didn't bother with the extended warranty when I bought the LG LED. That's the biggest warranty issue w/any LED. You can't fix a pixel. And the issue remains w/LED versus the old LCD. Your LED is still an LCD, it just has a different method of back lighting the pixels. I've never met anyone who had a problem with their plasma. My Panasonic is about 5 years old, going strong.
3D was a non-issue for me. My LG has it, but that's a function of buying a near-videophile level TV for picture quality. I've had it for 6 months and haven't watched anything in 3D. If 3D proves to be more than a fad for TV it will be in the gaming segment.
I have the 65" version of this TV. It is awesome.
Not sure if mentioned or not, but one of the best things about Panasonic is they releases fixes and updates through to their smart TVs that you can just download - so fixing issues like light pops was really easy. Samsung still hasn't gotten there yet.
The 3D on this TV is awesome, not that anyone really uses it, but HBO on demand has a decent amount of 3D options. It doesn't come with glasses, which are like $85 a piece, though.
I guess that's a small advantage to LED. Most LED's use passive 3D glasses, which are cheap and usually included. Plasma has to use active 3D glasses which are pricey. But again, I don't really care about 3D.
Closing the deal at Mahogony now withbour "consultant" and going w/ Panosonic 55 plasma, he agreed with all the comments you all made. We are also getting this r2d2 look alike thing that will provide sound to the pool and fire pit and it gets the signal from our network and can stay outside.
Does Costco warranty of tw years on TV's or even the manufactures warranty cover burn ins on plasma TV's? does anyone know the answer to this, because the best buy warranty does and that may help me make a call on where to buy ours at.
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