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She is a grown woman so at the end of the day she has the ultimate responsibility.
That said, it sounds like you guys made some bad choices that didn't help her. You say she consistently blacks out when boozing and yet you let her in the cab? In my mind the moment you let her in the cab you should have had the babysitter hat on. If you didn't want to babysit you should have taken her back to the group so she was someone elses responsibility.
When she was in the cab and wanted to turn around you could have but didn't want to take the $35 hit. Did she have any cash on her? Did she drink more at the club? If so, who bought the drinks? Bartenders get sued all the time for serving intoxicated patrons who do something horrible. It's a stretch but I imagine if something horrible had happened to her and her family was looking to blame someone (you) they could find a lawyer that could make the case that you knew her previous history of blacking out and yet you continued to buy her drinks at a club in a shitty part of town.
Also, this part isn't clear:
The club closes and we go get pizza at this shady spot right ext to the cub. After we get out of there she starts being really impatient again and after 5(?) minutes just walks across the street by herself.
So why was she getting impatient? We're you waiting for a cab or doing something else that caused her to get impatient?
The real question is how you would you have felt if something really bad had happened to her. Even though you weren't ultimately responsible, you weren't being a good friend.
This post was edited by TheRiddler 14 months ago
I think the real question is how grotesque she must have been for you to not capitalize off her black spels to hit that, and instead let her run off with some random?
Not gonna play catch up with this thread but this pretty much sums it up. You KNEW she'd potentially be a hassle when you let her tag along so you can't absolve yourself of responsibility when she fucks up.
Nobody thought to jot down the license plates? Really?
Holy shit legal culture is awful. Let's just sue everyone else instead of taking responsibility being morons.
Not really sure what you could have done to avoid that so it's not on you at all
I think it's pretty obvious, the blame has to start with your buddies parents.
i think that if a couple dudes take a drunk female friend to the block, there is a sense of responsibility to get her home safely. regardless of whether she insisted she go with or was invited.
Tell us about the guy in the Acura. Did you talk to him at all?
Imagine the emotional roller coaster ride for the Acura guy. From "Score!" to "Shit there's a giant chasing me!" and back to "Score!" in a couple of minutes.
Easy to understand after a long evening of drinking.
Also a little sad how many people here are willing to abdicate this woman's responsibility for herself. Its hard to imagine if this dumbass friend was a guy and not an attractive girl, that anyone would be saying you have any guilt here.
I don't know what you mean, but it had the cadence of a joke.
i'm glad you're not one of my buddies. it's just a matter of looking out for a friend when their judgement is compromised. besides, a guy getting into a random guy's car is different from a female doing so.
This post was edited by 2Sticks 14 months ago
girls are different than guys.
And Sticks what if your drunk guy friend got into nola's car/ice cream truck?
blame the lawyers. The lawyers are the parasites of society. They leech on the productive to redistribute money to their pockets. brilliant scam they have going.
I'm thinking Canyonerooooooooooooooooo is telling us a story about a friend when it is really about him.
Parents are a substitute for Gary Williams. Ribs are a substutute for wings. Team took him to a strip club and left him there. Only ride home he could get was from a Gay guy named Rudy in an Acura.
This post was edited by BS19 14 months ago
Meh, I'm great at looking after friends who have had too much (I'm usually the most sober of the bunch), and have had plenty of experience with it. However, there reaches a point when matters are out of your hands (ie running after a car), and it doesn't make your friends' own stupid behavior your fault. They tried to stop this idiot from getting in the car to the extent that they put themselves in potential danger, and yet its supposed to be partially his fault? Bullshit.
Understood, this thread had that as an undercurrent but no one had actually come out and said it.
Harsh to say, but equal rights come with equal responsibilities.
Since we're talking percentages, perhaps we should move this to the "Statistics Question" thread. It's a nice little thread. I think you'll like it there. There are smart guys there that can help you out.
i never said anything about "fault." all i'm saying is that i would have a sense of responsibility to make sure she get's home safely. i think Will and his friend did the right thing by chasing the car down and getting it to stop. if i stopped the car and the guy was a complete stranger to the girl, i wouldn't have let him drive her home. period.
I'm not big on babysitting, I'm usually a proponent of the "they're an adult" philosophy. I do try to pay extra attention to my female friends if they are in bad shape just because it is more dangerous for them with acura guys always on the lookout like wolves watching the herd for stragglers. I think it would have been tough to do much more than willbo did though. She ran off, they ran after her, but she escaped. Some better decisions probably could have been made at points, but when you have a runner it can be tough to handle.
The thread is asking if he is at fault, that's why I phrased it like that.
How easily we place the blame
And tell you what we would have done.
"I wouldn't have let him drive her".
How sure are you without a gun?
So if she were a child, then yes
You would take blame for the result,
But do not fill yourself with guilt
Because she was A DAMNED ADULT!
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