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15 minutes in naples should be enough
Phatboy if you had any balls I'd meet you at the AFA Boxing gym and have Coach Weichers put some gloves on us.
I liked the archaeological museum .
Though somewhat related, a year later (after a total of 7 failed IVFs and a failed IUI or two), we booked a two week trip to Hawaii, again, mostly to avoid depression and get the fuck out of town. We found out she was pregnant the day before we left. Our fertility clinic actually sent us there with paperwork to do blood work. We had to track down this nasty little lab place on the north shore of Oahu. The guy who checked us in at the front desk also took her blood. He was the only one working there. (I think he also worked the spit at the resort pig roast, but I digress.) And of course with the time difference, the results of blood taken in Hawaii had to come back to us the next day. It was an emotional roller coaster. We were extremely excited, but nervous as hell for the first 4 or 5 days there (you do a blood test every other day to monitor hCG levels, and make sure they're rising at a viable rate). But once we got the green light that things looked great - best 10 days of our lives. It was the end of a really rough three or four years.
(Of course the 2nd kid came waaaaay too fast. They're 14 months apart. We hear that's common.)
Actually, a friend of mine has done some really cool vacations through the National Geographic Society where you vacation with a bunch of other rich whiteys and they have legit experts in the chosen field/geography, I'm pretty sure they've been both land based tour/safari types and cruises.
They sound really interesting, but they're also like 20k and a couple weeks long.
fine, have fun lugging around all your luggage to spend SLIGHTLY more time in each place. also, what the hell would you do in Sicily for more than 2 days?
i have been on about 4 cruises, and they all sucked except for the med cruise- which is one of the best trips i have ever done- land or sea.
Oh I wouldnt pretend that its more relaxing and I'd way prefer being on land with the option to move around.
As G$ pointed out, its about expenses. A Carnival cruise for a family of 4 is probably going to be like half as expensive as a decent resort if they do it right.
Lets just say that cruise ships have to make their potable water. They also have to purge their sewage. Ironically, they make their water from the exact place they purge their sewage. No chance I ever go on any extended cruise.
My wife wanted me to start this thread a few months ago because this is a subject we disagree on to a point. She likes cruises. Her parents go on two or three cruises a year, which blows my mind. Her aunt works for Princess cruise lines so we get sweet deals (:jewsaysthings) Last year we took a cruise and got a balcony for the price of an interior room. Seems minor but the balcony is a must-have. I repeat, A BALCONY IS A MUST HAVE!
On their base level, the assumptions about cruises are pretty spot on: :ma families and old people getting their grub on. At one of our dinners, we sat with a roided out Jersey boy who ordered three entrees and said he had to scarf it down to prepare for the midnight buffet. (Jokes on him, there was no midnight buffet.)
While I don't LOVE cruises, they have their place. I disagree with what someone said above about it being a relaxing vacation. Resorts are more relaxing. Cruises are that in-between vacation. It allows you to sit on your butt if you want, but if you're like me, you can't do that for an entire week. With cruises, every day there's a day's worth of "something" different to do. You don't do cruises to "experience" an island. Still, some excursions can be fun. We did a bike tour around Bonnaire and a kayaking trip through St. Maarten (bare titties FTW!) and had a good time while getting some exercise.
That said, if you go onto a boat with the mindset of "I paid my way on, and I'm not spending a dollar more", you are white trash." But...there are things you can do to separate yourself from the unwashed mass of tank tops and tribal tattoos. I'm not sure if all ships have these things but our boat did and I think a lot do:
Balconies: Did I mention that is not optional? GET A DAMN BALCONY.
Dinners: Instead of the cattle call seating, most ships have a few restaurants that you have to make reservations for. It's like $20/person but infinitely worth it. We did both restaurants on our cruise and the food was markedly better.
Pool: The pools are usually shit shows. Unbearable. But the Princess cruise line has these private pools, it's like $50/person for 4-5 hours or something like that. It's much more chill, better lounge chairs, you have your own service, they bring you fruit, desserts, etc. That was so relaxing, I actually fell asleep out there, something I never do.
Am I advocating cruises? Not really. Still, they have their place and there are ways to make them more than just a Jersey Shore re-run. All things equal, I'll take a resort.
PS- Next month, I have a client sending my wife and me on a one-week cruise. I will be shooting videotape for a few hours every other day or so, but everything else is free time. Pretty sweet shoot, actually.
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classlessthug: I have too much on my plate to worry about the fact that my junk intimidates some needle D undergrad.
And regarding booze, Princess allows a bottle of wine/person on board, or at least they did.
And Carnival is the NC State of cruise lines.
Going on Baltic cruise this summer, figure we can get highlights of the diff countries and then just revisit the ones we really liked and soak up the culture.
Gonna spend couple days in Amsterdam before the ship leaves from Rotterdam, denmark. Ports include Copenhagen, st petersburg Russia, stockholm sweden, visby sweden, Berlin and hamburg Germany, estonia. Pretty psyched about it!
it also takes like three days to get to the caribbean vs three hours on a plane
cruises are for elders....the monetarily challenged and people who are afraid to fly
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cruises generally suck in that they are cheesy and gluttonous, but they are (1) cheap, (2) easy and (3) low maintenance when you have kids. So they are fun enough. You pack your bags and can see many cool things on one trip. There are a lot of differences between cruises/cruise lines though. I took a cruise out of Rome to the Greek Isles and Turkey that was really nice. Upscale crowd, upscale ship. Great time. Then i took a cruise out of Baltimore to Bermuda that was a bit of a different element. Still awesome time though in its own way.
So don't do them every year, but every few years why not. I'd be up for a Panama Canal cruise and a Baltic cruise (St. Petersburg, Finland, Estonia). Maybe Alaska too.
Also, realize that cruise lines make their money from the booze and the gambling.
True, with one caveat: the shorter cruises and older ships (with cheaper cabins) tend to be filled with every fanny-pack wearing loser you can find. (We made the mistake of booking one for a long weekend getaway from the kids.) However, the bigger, newer, nicer, more-expensive Carnival ships--while still booze and food fests--weed out a good bit of society's trash element.
i like cruising. for me, it's an affordable way to do several relaxing trips a year, rather than one great resort trip per year. i'm about to embark on my 5th cruise is 28 months. i have lots of opinions regarding cruise lines.. ships.. destinations, etc if anyone ever cares and wants to ask. PM me.
p.s. unless you're going to bermuda.. don't cruise out of baltimore. you lose 2.5 days sailing down rough seas on the east coast of the U.S. pay the cheap airfare to orlando or ft lauderdale.
I think choosing a newer ship is key. The newest Royal Caribbean ship that sails from Florida (Allure of the Seas) is literally 3 times larger than the 15 year old RC ship that sails out of Baltimore. Cruises on those two ships are going to be completely different experiences.
We just did the Allure in November and it certainly had much more to offer in terms of "scenery" and dining options throughout the ship. However, there are hassles that also come with sailing these ships, such as having to pre-book all of your entertainment which is a drag because you do it so far in advance and then you get onboard and learn of other activities at those times, etc. Also, the megaships can only fit into certain ports, so their itinerary is extremely limited and both the Allure and the Oasis only offer 7 day trips. I would certainly sail either ship again, for their merits, but I can honestly say that I prefer the two classes below this class for their itineraries and flexible entertainment.
And don't bust on Lawrenceterp. He and his wife can afford.. and do... vacation all over the world, as well as owning their own place in Costa Rica (not a timeshare.) Cruising, for those that dig it, is fun. They dig it.
what is a reasonable amount to expect to pay for a decent room, per person, in december or january? What itinerary? I really have no interest but a cruise is on the table for my mom's birthday next winter.
Cruising isn't our favorite vacation but of the three cruises we've been on, none were horrible. the first step is to set your expectations and select the appropriate cruise line. I've had an agent at a cruise company describe most of the cruises out of baltimore as the beer and football crowd. this means Carnival, low budget travelers from mid-atlantic states. If you cannot register this then it's pretty much your fault. Cruises during the summer months...families. Cruises during the offseasons, younger singles and geriatrics. It's not hard to figure out the demographics of each sailing.
We've sailed on RC, Holland Amer and Celebrity. not the finest, not the cheapest. RC was most family -oriented, celebrity had the best food and was more for younger adults. Holland was chilled, refinement on a budget.
Why sail? Great family vacation...I have four siblings, we've vacationed together with our parents and our kids annually from the carib ro Hawaii. It's not easy coordinating 4-5 families for excursions or meals let alone travelling from one island to another. Cruising is relatively carefree...we didn't go overboard with planning...we just did what came to mind. My sisters say the disney cruises were the most relaxing family vacations they've ever had. for those who want to visit multiple places, it sure beats packing and unpacking.
Again, it's not my preference but there literally are thousands of cruises, you have to just pick the one that suits you best.
My wife and I got a sick deal a few years ago for Celebrity. It was right after New Years and was $199 per person for 5 nights IIRC. Insane.
Having been on Carnival and Royal Caribbean, Celebrity blew those two out of the water. I cannot go back. Much classier atmosphere, excellent food, and the entertainment was impressive and not cheesy. We were probably one of the youngest couples on the boat, but that didn't really bother me. At the ports, we just found a local beach to hang out for the day and drank some cocktails.
And yes, Carnival is the epitome of middle America.
Most cruise lines will allow 1-2 bottles of wine per person, but a number of my friends are liquor people.
For the last 3 cruises, I've used Rum Runners (you can find them on Amazon for like $25 for like 2 big containers and 4 small ones). I've filled them with bourbon, vodka, etc for folks, and we've literally saved thousands of dollars. They aren't shaped like bottles -- they look more like medical supplies. Never had any of them pulled.
Oh, and the key to great cruises (as opposed to most destination vacations) isn't where you go.
It's who goes with you.
You're going to be spending much more time at sea than you will at port, and you need to be with folks that will be fun. We have a core group of 8 folks that all go on cruises together, and it makes the journey there and back just as awesome as (and sometimes more awesome than) whatever you do on land.
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That's awesome. 1-2 bottles of wine per person might get me through lunch on the first day of a cruise, so I like the Rum Runners idea. If that's not proof that capitalism is awesome...
Just curious, how do you dispense the booze on the cruise? Do you bring your flask to the pool/bar and just ask for a glass? I'd like to know the choreography of this.
Also, you are absolutely correct that the most important part of any cruise--and any vacation, for that matter--is who you go with. I have a group of friends who could probably make a weekend at a Days Inn seem fun. Meanwhile, I have family members that .. Well, never mind.
The rum runners things come with 4 containers that are small enough to fit in your pocket. Just get coke/ sprite/ juice/ whatever and pour it out at least semi-surreptitiously and it's no big deal.
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