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Well, that was quick (although not really, since this happened last month, but once this became such a big news story, the feds had to take a look I think...)
Federal prosecutors have opened an investigation into the killing of an unarmed teen by a neighborhood watch volunteer in Florida.
This post was edited by terps99 2 years ago
It sounds like the 'grieving' friend is the one who brought up gun control.
seeing as how my best friend is a Baltimore City cop, and I come from a blue collar neighborhood where people either had to join the police force or military to get out, I think I know how cops feel about handgun ownership. I have family members that work the Force. I can guarantee you that most cops are on the other side of the fence. They would much rather you did not own a handgun. It's pretty obvious why they don't want you to own a handgun, and it has nothing with enforcing a police state or wanting to see guns in the hands of the criminals. It definitely has nothing with wanting to take your freedoms away. Yes handguns are dogshit for home defense. Only a myopian would argue otherwise.
Yeah, I don't think I've met anyone in law enforcement (or otherwise) whose first suggestion for home protection would be a handgun. There are some good handguns you can get for that purpose, but I'd imagine most people would recommend a shotgun over a handgun for home defense.
They're ahead of every device on the planet other than a shotgun. Good argument though.
I think everyone agrees with that. It seems as if he wanted to kill that kid.
On the plus side, there's a good chance that not being able to post on this thread will kill Terpcity.
This post was edited by PostCompactor 2 years ago
I don't think that he saw the kid and then hatch some plot because he wanted to murder him,
I think he honestly thought the kid was one of the ones who was breaking into houses in his neighborhood (and for all we know, maybe he was acting suspicous and did have his hand in his waistband) and instead of stopping after doing the right thing (calling the police) he goes into full cowboy mode and confronts a kid he feels is armed and holds him at gunpoint. Not advised but if the kid actually was up to no good, you can hold him there until the police arrive so "the asshole doesn't get away." Then he goes into full retard mode when it must be obvious that the kid isn't a threat to him, is screaming for his life and deserves to be murdered.
I know what he said, I just don't think he made that all up because he felt like murdering an innocent kid that night.
Like I said, I think it's more likely that the kid was acting somewhat suspicious (moreso than just being black), the dumbass didn't know how to appropriately handle the situation and now should go to jail for murder.
No. This is jtp's doing. He's kept me around for his bizarre HOF resume.
I haven't been following this on the national news but are people like al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson getting involved. It would be interesting since the murder was hispanic and not white.
These cops make PG look good...
Ya, his self defense claim is complete BS the moment he ignores the 911 dispatcher and continues to persue the kid.
Who gets to stand their ground?
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It seems like when the kid put his hoodie on and started to run, Zimmerman probably thought he was up to something. How could the police department just let this dude go without charging him. Has there been any word from them?
I agree that it's unlikely the guy hatched this sinister plot regarding the 911 call and was already planning to murder the him, but what in the world would give you the impression that it was "likely the kid was acting somewhat suspicious"? You're inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to the clearly insane person?
I don't think he is doing that. I think he is trying to figure out was was going through this dudes mind. I was attempting to do the same thing. Its obvious the killer had preconceived notions that led him to do this. I think everyone agrees he was 100% wrong and stupid. I probably would have done the same thing if I thought someone was chasing me.
I think few would argue that the guy who called 911 every week and carried a concealed weapon while patrolling the neighborhood had a screw loose and a hard on for criminals I think it's odd to just assume this man wouldn't have initiated this course of action unless the kid was doing something suspicious. I think it's highly plausible that he was just a fucking nutjob looking for action and he saw a black kid he didn't recognize walking down the street and the gears in his tiny brain started smoking. Baldwin specifically said he was likely doing something suspicious besides just being black, and I find that an odd assumption to make based on the facts of the story is all.
Edit: no hate on Baldwin, just found it a little surprising.
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I think if I were the family of Martin I would prefer the Feds getting in on this case than Seminole County doing a half-hearted prosecution followed by an acquittal.
Honestly, if I walked my neighborhood all night every night I'm sure I'd find all kinds of suspicious characters. If you add in the fact that their neighborhood has been a target for burglars and break ins and it's clear why he had a hard on for criminals.
I'm giving him the "benefit of the doubt" because his story isn't that far fetched. You see a kid wandering in a neighborhood while it's raining out. The kid sees you and starts watching you, before heading off. That seems strange.
At the same time, the kids walking back from 7-11 and notices a man just sitting in his car watching him. That is pretty scary/suspicious and he keeps an eye on him for a minute before taking off. That makes you look more suspicious to the creep in the car and how he reacts makes him look more suspicious to you. :willy nilly:
They are getting involved, but unfortunately for the purposes of these rallys, Zimmerman is white.
January 2011 (I thought it was 2012 the first time I read it as well)
I'd expect more from the super cop.
This post was edited by Baldwin 2 years ago
people encounter misunderstandings in all walks of life...the fact he went looking for that misunderstanding with a weapon and disobeyed the dispatcher and all rules of watch engagement is all that I care about. He was seeking out engagement therefore he gets no benefit of the doubt from me.
I give him zero benefit of the doubt because the only thing the kid was doing to be suspicious was to be black. On the 911 call, zimmerman states how he looks like he is on drugs? really? Sorry, not buying at all. You have a paul blart wannabe playing dirty harry. He solely created this situation due to his stupidity and ignorance, emboldened by being strapped.
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