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If you get a Kansas Mule Deer tag bring it. It's mostly spot and stalk hunting and you're looking at 300 + yard shot. I haven't gotten my Mule Deer tag yet. It takes a couple of tries to draw. My brothers have taken theirs at 300+
I have places I can shoot out to 1000 yards.
Urban police have this opinion, but not country sheriffs, and for good reasons.
I'd definitely need to scope-up a little, I've always used 3-9x40, and in the swamps I rarely take it off 4x. So assuming my optics are adequate, is 150gr enough for mule deer? Also would a guide in CO/NM be alright with me using .30-06 and 180 gr for elk?
That should be just fine. I know a guy that hunts with 6.5 Creedmoor and that is it. Shot his Elk with 140 grain hollow at a touch over 140 yards. Shot his Mule Deer at about 300 with the same round. Neither animal moved more than about 75 yards.
This post was edited by WSDB 16 months ago
I was on Baretta's website. Do you think getting the 3901 is going cheap?
Complete noob here. I'm buying one long riifle for home defense. I'm choosing either a Remington 870 pump action shotgun, or a Ruger 10/22 semi automatic. As far as I know, the firearm will be used in only 2 places - at the target range so I learn how to use it, and theoretically, in my living room to prevent or scare off a home invasion. My living room is only about 30-40 feet at its widest, and I live in a typical subdivision which is not plagued by zombies.
Which is better for my circumstances?
Anything .22 is not really suited for home defense - not nearly enough stopping power. However, they're great guns for target shooting/plinking since its about $20 for 500 or 550 rounds.
I would recommend the shotgun. The 870 is a solid gun. I don't know how much damage you'll do with a .22 unless the circumstances are ideal. On the other hand, I don't know where you'll find a range that allows shotguns. Perhaps you can find a gun club. Ideally, if you want a range gun, a .22 is great-easy to shoot and ammo is cheap.
Edit: why in the world would someone downvote this? Amazing
I guess I should have finished? Great minds think alike.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MDTerp84 16 months ago
A quality .22 semi auto LR can be had well under $200. I think my Marlin squirrel widower was $170. I own that and a Rem 870. You can have both for under $600. But don't run out and get an 870 with a 26" barrel. For home defense, get the home defense-specific 870 if you have your heart set on a shotgun.
Long lines and brisk retail. Store owners chalk it up to holiday shopping...
I agree with this, finding a place in MD to shoot a rifle or shotgun is difficult, but since SA is from Texas, he can probably practice shotgun in his backyard.
A rifle (.22 or otherwise) is a bad idea for home defense, unless you are specifically trying to defend against a zombie attack or if Napoleon's legions are attempting to storm your barricades
This always happens. People immediately assume that your right to buy guns and ammo will be taken away. It's a stupid assumption.
I don't think it's that. I think it's people fear for the safety of their family and they want to do something, anything. Buying a gun gives you a sense of security.
Makes sense to purchase a gun for your home when the massacre happened at elementary school...
So, how do you store all these guns? And how quickly can you get to and load one when an intruder bursts thru your front door at 2AM?
My long guns are in a locked safe in the garage. My .40 pistol is in a fingerprint safe next to the bed. Time from hearing noise to lead in ciminal's torso would be about 10 seconds. Hope and pray that never happens, I'm not some NRA yahoo.
long rifle is horrible for self defense. It assumes you will be ready while the intruder is still >8 feet away.
It's ideal for protecting your house from looters if you're sitting on your roof, but that's about it.
The shortest barreled shotgun is most ideal for many reasons.
I have an 18" barrell Mossberg and .40 cal Beretta w/ green laser under the bed. Shotty is loaded with 2 shells of 00 buckshot and 1 slug. Beretta has Hornady hollow points. I dont have kids in my apt at any time and don't advertise that I have guns or where they're located to any friends or acquaintances.
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