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You are trying to prove me wrong by taking my point and completely oversimplifying and generalizing it to make it look inane. We both know none of what you said is true.
I had a long post written out, but instead I'll just say this: I don't begrudge anyone for believing in religion. There are without a doubt certain societal benefits that can be achieved through the lessons that are prevalent throughout all religion. Great things have been done in the world because of religion.
However, terrible things have been done because of it as well. The simple fact that wars have been fought over a belief tells us that religion is dangerous. In the western world, there is a large amount of hypocrisy when it comes to thanking God for what we have, but not recognizing that he has abandoned many in other places (Africa) they are much more pious than us.
As for your points, are you trying to say that God is an "implausible unicorn fantasy?" Because with the evidence we have, it isn't far off.
This post was edited by BlackAnGold 13 months ago
A war was started over a soccer match, too. And quite possibly over the attempt to kill the father of a new leader.
Are those better reasons for war because they aren't religious-based?
The notion that people "fight wars over religion" is a bit overblown. People fight wars because they want to take something from someone else or because they want to build the world in their own image. Sure, people have used religion as an excuse, but if you eliminate religion from the world, those people will find other reasons to start wars and do bad things.
Also, "religion" does not necessarily have to entail a belief in God. People follow a charismatic leader, brand, sports team, etc. with religious fervor. One will be replaced by another, and the one that makes you accountable for your actions for all eternity is probably the least dangerous of the bunch.
Well, I mean, that’s what it is. I doodoo and then listen to Katy Perry.
You're assuming all believers have come to believe via one path which is simply unproven and inaccurate.
The 'configuration' of a believer varies. There are millions of believers that never set foot in a church growing up and there are millions of believers that are educated. A 60 yr old white male born in NYC that never attended church and graduated from Yale could become a believer.
I actually would have rather you posted that I believe in a fairy tale than trying to tell us why and how we believe.
This post was edited by naegeleterp 13 months ago
Terrible people are going to do terrible things, whether religion is the banner they are flying or not.
I love Francis, and I read the Gospels
And yea just like JC, I got apostles
i didn't think people still took them seriously
Phatboy if you had any balls I'd meet you at the AFA Boxing gym and have Coach Weichers put some gloves on us.
His point stands. The vast majority of religious people have the religion of their parents.
The erratic Peggy Noonan came up with a beautiful one this time.
There is a power in the new pope's humility, writes Peggy Noonan.
Yes, that is one path. I never argued against that.
To say it's the 'vast majority'? I don't know. Are you assuming? Do you have proof? I simply don't know for sure.
Even if it is the vast majority it still doesn't justify him using a generalization. There are many paths to becoming a believer.
Also, I'm very confused by your interest in this subject.
Just make a reference to Santa Claus and go on your way.
the vast majority of people have a lot of things in common with their parents.
It's clearly the vast majority, please...it's almost every single person. Not a lot of converts.
My interest in this subject is the rcc is evil and I don't like evil. I am trying to bring people to the light.
This post was edited by TortugaGrande 13 months ago
yes, of course they do.
urvey respondents were specifically asked if they were raised in
particular religion and whether they had ever switched to another
denomination or preferred no religion at all. Overall, 35.7% of those
who were raised with a particular religion had at some point switched
to another religion or no religion. Stated another way, about 2/3rds
stay with the religion in which they were raised.
Table 29 of the study presents the percent of people raised in a
particular religion who reported currently being members of that same
A. Major Religions
B. Major Protestant Denominations
Southern Baptist 71.8
United Methodist 63.0
Disciples of Christ 63.9
is there data on how many of the switchers went to "no religion" because I bet it's around 35.69999999
Humans are fallible and inherently evil therefore any person and their actions, whether they are religious or not, can be described as evil.
Also, if you're trying to convert people I don't think mocking or antagonzing them is a prudent way to do it.
ok, so the vast majority of believers have the religion of their parents. That still doesn't justify : "People don't take time to figure out whether or not they should believe. They are indoctrinated at a young age and blindly follow once they get older. "
You need to explore each believer's path as to how they got to that point. Every person's experience is different whether they had believers as parents or not.
It's still very much an individual journey and cannot be lumped into...well, your parents were christian.
I would say that even though someone's parents were believers it doesn't mean they didn't take the time to investigate and research what they believe in. I know it can be hard fathom in your guys' case but some very very smart people put a lot of thought and education into what they believe. Some of those people had religous parents, some did not.
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