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What is the deal? I have never needed one, but I have a few friends from HS/College that went into the profession. Do they all turn into crazy people? In the last two days on Facebook, one wrote that you should bring your autistic child in as they help cure that, and a vegan diet with adjustments will lead to weight loss. They both always post links from sites that are the equivalent of 9/11 truthers.
It's true. A HUGE percentage of chiropractors are absolute whackjobs. I believe that chiropractic can help a lot with respect to back/neck pain, but for some reason, a bunch of them think that they can cure cancer or, as you note, deal with autism, etc.
I have friends from College who went into it and they aren't crazy. But when they started interviewing for jobs, they basically had to pretend that they thought scientology was a real thing because 99% of chiropractors are scientologists. For some reason, it draws in the crazy's.
Yeah, I'm a huge, huge fan of my chiropractors but the profession is full of horrible nutjobs. Stay away from chiros who try to sell you supplements or claim that they can cure all kinds of stuff with their spinal adjustments. I've been to my chiros maybe 2 dozen times over the past couple of years (being a ninja ain't easy) and I've had an "adjustment" maybe twice in that time and both times they asked first whether I'd be OK with it.
My tips for finding a good chiro:
1. they practice ART (soft tissue work that is basically assisted stretching)-- PT's, massage therapists, etc. can often do this but my insurance will only cover chiros
2. they work for one of the local professional sports teams and/or local triathlons/marathons
3. they are athletes or former athletes
My chiros usually only take 1 visit to fix me up and then they teach me all the stretches I need to continue my progress. They know I want to get back to my sport ASAP and not just set up 2-3 visits a week for X weeks.
But yeah, the chiropractic dogma and traditional chiropractors can often be really bad. Just do your homework first.
Yeah, the chiropractors that I use are mostly soft tissue therapists that are masquerading as chiropractors because its become a more accepted profession.
i'm pretty sure a vegan diet will lead to weight loss without "adjustments."
Smiley has good advice. I was skeptical when I went to my first one but in one visit, he fixed a problem I had been having for 4-5 years, but it was never serious enough to consider a doctor. Completely fixed.
And yeah, beware the ones who want to set you up with 6-8 visits. It's a recurring revenue thing, unless you have something serious.
yeah they are like the special teams coaches of the medical profession. They just seem a little odd
I had always stayed away from Chiros feeling they were wackos for most of my life.
I was rear ended about 10 yrs ago and a real good friend of mine is a chiro in NJ, and he was a football player at MD and strong as hell, so I was always afraid to let him adjust me.
I called him when my neck was really screwed up after the accident and he told me to go see Kevin Benson, who was an an all ACC linebacker at MD and had played for the Jets. Kevin is awesome and really knows his stuff. He is involved with treating iron men athletes, and I go to him from time to time.
I highly reccomend Benson, he is in Rockville, and he does other stuff besides Chiro.
They really really helped my back problems but the "you have to come in every..." thing really turned me off. I would just say no, ill make an appointment when I need it. I had one chiropractor for a bit (believe his name was greg pyle at the yallich clinic in glen burnie) who was GREAT. He would feel around my lower back and say "you seem pretty good" or "you seem really tight" without me telling him. The receptionest would always ask if I should be scheduled in a week and he would mostly say "no, he shoukd be ok for a while". I know he lived in annapolis, but all google searches show him in ohio now. If he was semi local I would go where he is. Even with all the stretching and exercises I do, the chiropractor still helps.
My dad was a chiropractor, and he would always flip out about how a bunch of chiropractors gave the entire profession a bad name by doing crazy shit and saying they could cure a lot of stuff they couldn't.
Just do your research and find out what they people actually do. I've been to several different ones since my dad passed away, and the best ones have always been the guys with the small practices that take the time to talk to you and actually get to know you, instead of the ones that get you in and get you out.
If you're in the Rockville area, Dr. Fishkin is fantastic.
"The drummer for Maryland's pep band just freaked out: 'They're trying to slow the game down,' he screamed. 'Get up on them, get up on them.
Many of my Chiro friends get into the lifestyle of being healthy. Cross fit, Paleo diet, nutrition etc, and live to spew it on Facebook. It's all good stuff but they do go overboard sometimes. Especially the vaccine stuff which is insane.
Manual therapy, whether its adjustments, joint mobilization, soft tissue (ART, Graston, etc), or therapeutic exercises is always changing and adapting to advances in science and go beyond anecdotal data. It doesn't work on everyone and every condition, but usually it's extremely beneficial for a lot of people. I work for a company that has Orthos Mds PTs and Chiros and as long as they are giving you the therapy that best suits your needs, your in good hands.
The problem with some Chiropractors is that their business is based on volume so they have to see people more regularly, but the reality is you can get people better after 5 visits and showing them what to do to. If you go to an office and they evaluated and treat you with little passive modalities and give you real rehab, you are in a good place. Whether its a PT/Chiro/DO etc.
I was in an accident and saw two different people. A Chiro got me back to where I was pre accident in less than 6 visits, where before when so was doing PT I kept going with no significant change and started to get sciatica. And it wasn't the adjustment at all bc he didn't do that with me, it was the right type of exercises, and distracting my low back.
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What's the consensus on chiros practicing graston technique?
I went to one maybe 10 years ago for a shoulder/back thing. Didn't really fix those but when I mentioned I had allergies he offered to crack my neck and "cure" it. For free.
He cracked the hell out of my neck and I didn't have any allergy issues for about 5 years. Can't explain it (or recommend it) but whatever he did worked.
LOL and agreed.
I just took my son to a chiropractor. He's 11 and has been having some arm / shoulder pain from baseball. The orthopedist was a bit disappointing and I found this person who practices out of a sports performance facility here in the area. He did a couple of neck / back adjustments on his first visit which my son loved and then watched him throw. After doing a couple of throwing tests he determined the issue my son is having is actually in his forearm muscle and not the shoulder growth plate that the ortho assumed. Gave us a few stretching and band exercises to target that area. Went to see him a week later and things are much better. He actually said I'd love to find some other things wrong but you should be good to go. Don't come back unless there is more pain. I was very happy with his approach and knowledge of sports bio-mechanics.
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I've only had graston done on me once and it didn't fix the issue, but neither did anything else other than lyrica. Most of the good chiros that I've been to have offered graston, I just don't really have much experience with it. ART has fixed most of my issues.
Yeah, I originally found my current chiro because of a shoulder issue (from hunching over the keyboard). I had rotator cuff surgery ~10 years ago that kind of screwed up my MRI results and the ortho wanted to cut me. I kept telling her that I was pretty sure that my current pain was unrelated and that I didn't think surgery was necessary but she was kind of insistent. So I went to the chiro and after 5-6 ART sessions of 15 minutes each and some stretching at home I was fine. There's a really good one in Alexandria but he doesn't take insurance so I go to Falls Church for my chiro (Full Motion Life & Fitness) because they take insurance. It's about the longest I drive anywhere, but well worth it. I've referred almost a dozen friends there too.
The chiropractor I went to in Morgantown worked with a M.D. and each referred patients to the other when they felt either chiropractic or standard medical procedures were appropriate. It worked well for me until I needed to get a C5-6 fusion, and the chiro referred me to the Steeler's surgeon in Pittsburgh to get the surgery done.
Kidding aside, I basically do that to myself with my foam roller and it makes my spine feel awesome. Homer was onto something.
You need to understand the origins of chiropractic to put this in context. Classical chiropractic dogma is pretty much insanity, which isn't surprising -- it was started by a loon, and grew in popularity due to the founders' son (a son who ran over his father during a dispute) being a con artist who bilked people out of hundreds of thousands of dollars -- enough to buy a radio station and spread the dogma. And there are still a number of chiropractic folks who pretty much believe in 'theories' that make no sense, despite all evidence being to the contrary. So you shouldn't be surprised that they buy into conspiracy theories, don't believe in germ theory and medication, have a penchant for scientology, and embrace other whacko ideas. This is one group of chiropractors -- so-called 'straights.'
The positive anecdotal stories you're reading here all sound like they were performed by so-called 'mixers,' who really have used biomechanics, deep tissue massage, and PM&R principles in order to essentially become high-priced physical therapists. They work in concert with physicians and trainers, and don't bash patients for doing such outrageous things as taking medicine, getting vaccinations, having their babies in hospitals, etc...
Not disagreeing at all with this statement, but the unfortunate irony is that its a ton easier to get insurance to cover soft tissue work from a chiro than it is to get it from other (probably equally capable) professionals.
I think this would vary widely, based on the insurer and the plan.
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