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I drove an explorer for years and only recently sold it to try to fix up and squeeze some miles out of a car that was left in my driveway for years by my punkass brother. The car just does not fit my needs at all, even in the city.
I tore up the back of the explorer pretty bad throwing shit in there all the time. Also, a pickup would probably allow me to get rid of my motorcycle trailer, and in the near future there is a good chance I will need to tow something too heavy for most non-tank suvs (boat, travel trailer).
$2500 for an 03 explorer with 125k is a great deal though, at least where I'm at. If I saw that and was confident there wasn't something wrong with it I'd definitely have to think about it.
I feel like everyone drives a CRV or a RAV 4. The new Chevy Equinox/GMC Terrain were ranked really high on a small SUV list I saw recently. I like the design of the Ford Escape and Mitsubishi Outlander better than the CRV and RAV4 as well.
Car and Driver did an extended long-term test of the Genesis, I've linked to the final update here. General consensus seems to be not quite a BMW, but for not quite BMW money either. I've also read in C&D that they like the V6 just as much as the V8. I'd leave it to a test drive.
How did the Hyundai Genesis 4.6 sedan hold up over two years and 100,000 miles at the hands of Car and Driver's staff? Read on for a full breakdown of the Genesis's torture test.
Stumbled across this and the mileage made my eyes pop at that year/price. Wonder if it's got a branded title or something. Thinking about heading up there to take a look at it this weekend.
Legend Auto Sales Inc in Burien is selling a 1998 Ford F150 Super Cab Long Bed
i dont care how far hyundai has come, lol @ comparing their "luxury sedan" to a bmw.
im sorry i was confusing...your "Superbowl" was the Redskins losing since you know that the Ravens cant win it all.
Hyundai is actually targeting Lexus and Infinity with the Genesis, not necessarily the germans. However, the publications have put it in a similar category. There's no comparison to the BMW. I've driven a 540i-M sport package for 10 years and I'm fairly certain that it's still more fun to drive than most new cars today. But the reality is spending $50K 10 years ago without kids was doable, spending $65-70K now with $4.30 gas is kinda a turn off. I checked out the genesis R-spec, 435hp 0-60 in 5 seconds, you're talking about S550 or BMW 550 power output. But of course the road feel is nowhere close to that of the bmw, and no throaty sound to go along with that massive output. I can get over the badge, been there done that. the road feel and cheaper material are more real concerns. Otherwise, the genesis did relative well against many of the luxury brands, it's a prudent alternative for $47K list. that's fully loaded.
This post was edited by TerpPride 2 years ago
total car newb... 30kish on a used SUV? I have a is250. Nice car, but I wouldn't mind having an SUV as well. Thanks!
I have the Sonata and have been pleased with it for the price I paid. I've hardly had an issue with it. It's a 2007 vehicle and I'm right around 70K miles on it right now.
Explain to me the passion for diesel? I get the gas mileage thing but diesel gas is more expensive and the cars are dirtier and noisier. What am I missing?
My mom had a hyundai (santa fe) as her last car (bmw 328 now), and I don't care how much they are improving the actual car....the biggest problem with them was their dealers and the service department. The repair prices are outrageous and the quality of work was awful. Dealer she bought the car from forgot to reattach the radiator hose correctly and a few hours later ended up on the ground of the Garden State Parkway. Had to pull off next exit where there was a sears auto place. Was about $1500 in damage, and not a cent back from Hyundai until a lawyer got involved. After that went to another dealer where they could not have been ruder. I know you don't have to go to the dealers for repairs, but they were the one's who would give the loaner she needed to get to work.
I am in market as this spring looking for new lease. Down to the X5 and Audi Q7.
Prices are about the same these days, but you are right about the dirty part. High end car makers had a good campaign about "clean diesel" when gas was flying up in Europe and diesel was cheaper. It's about as clean as clean coal is.
Have you driven a modern diesel? I have driven new TDI's where honestly you can't even really tell that they are diesels. They have a different sound, but they aren't noisy, and there is no smoke like the diesels of old. Direct injection is a wonderful thing.
Any thoughts on the Equus
No and that's why I am asking. Never considered them for the reasons I listed.
Btw, give me a car with better bang for the buck than the genesis?
yeah, I stopped by the Hyundai dealership in alexandria and I was a little taken aback by its crappy showroom. It was comparable to a used car dealership, and if the other local dealers are similar, service could be an issue as well. I love their extended warranty program but if the service level is bad, then the value of the warranty is diminished. It'll be a hard sell for my wife as she prefers high quality products so a subpar showroom and and sales force doesn't help. gonna try Oursman in Laura to compare. Otherwise I may step into a lease as well for a 5 series, xf or Gs as an alternative to dropping 60K.
As someone who leases cars the long term warranty doesn't help much anyway. To me more impt are the service plans that some offer. With BMW you don't pay a dime for anything for the entire lease. I know what my lease payment is per month, and that is the actual cost of ownership. The inlaws lexus has high service costs on top of the lease.
yeah, the service plans for leases are good. If I were to go with the genesis, I would likely buy it however.
I'm so hesitant about a lot of the VWs because of the timing belt issues. That's major maintenance and it has to be done, at most, at 70,000 miles? My last car (Nissan) went almost 200,000 before it needed the timing chain replaced.
105k on my old Passat. There were lots of message board posts about timing belt failures early (80k miles or so) on the early 1.8T engines, but I they pretty much resolved the issue on later instances of the 1.8T and the newer 2.0T.
Not a risk I'd personally take as I'm fairly sure they are interference engines. FWIW, Volkswagon recommends Timing Belt replacement at 60,000.
This post was edited by PantsEnFuego 2 years ago
fwiw, the VW forum is an insanely helpful place and will walk you through almost every repair possible. You're pretty good with that stuff so you could do most of the work yourself if you ordered parts through a third party and got yourself a cable to read the error codes (~$175-200, pays for itself quick).
This post was edited by JDawgBBall9 2 years ago
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On which engine? I'm pretty sure my B5.5 Passat said 105 per the manual.
What I've seen/read is that 105 is the drop dead date for replacement (i.e. absolute latest). They say you should check at 60,000 and again after ever 20,000. Most dealers recommend just taking care of it when it's checked the first time. Whether that's a money grab or not is up for debate, but again with it being an interference engine you're taking a large risk that not only the belt will hold, but also the tensioner.
edit: to answer your question about which engine: I'm reading 1.8T and 2.0T. I've also read Passat's are usually done at 80,000. Hard to get a consensus even from VW.
My friend who is a ASE Master and owns a shop says he gets people who buy used VWs all the time and then have to turn around and dump $750-$1000 into a timing belt right off the bat.
I just checked the manual on my CC (with the 2.0T) at lunch and it says 100k. I agree, probably not best to let it ride and something to consider when shopping.
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