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LOL @ fixing our deficit problems with tax reform...
how can conservatives not look at tax revenue over the last 50 years, and then look at the size of our mountainous debt, and say we don't have a tax problem? of course taxes are too low. does that mean the tougher job is not controlling entitlements and defense? no, of course not. but it is going to have to be both.
#1, let the Bush tax cuts expire.
#2, Ryan plan for medicare.
#3, cap defense spending at X% annual increases (say 2% less than overall fed spending increases) unless a declaration of war by congress.
#4, raise SS age and means test.
both sides take huge hits, deficit issue solved for 30 years. is that REALLY going to create that much harm? were taxes that crippling under Clinton?
This post was edited by BCiB 20 months ago
Wait, what? Is this a real thing?
Obviously if you want an effective civil service, it starts with smart and motivated people. I know a ton of people who have started with federal and local governmnets in the last couple years and are the types of people I'd hire if I were doing so in the private sector, so hopefully that bodes well.
I don't know if I think it's an employer of last resort as much as a collecting pool for people who can't function in the private sector and or have an in and therefore get jobs they have no business having.
I was talking to this chick once who was a bartender as a career and spent all of her time trying to get a federal gment job. It was amazing, the look in her eyes when talking about landing a federal governmnet job was similar to the look I get in my eyes when talking about an orgy of beer, chicken wings and Kate Upton. Her whole professional goal was to get a government job so that she didn't have to worry about working to hard or being fired. It was amazing.
I know plenty of people who dream of working for the fed government.
Yeah, but creepy fantasy type dreaming? It was like when people are talking about what they would do when they win the lottery. She had it all down. She'd do a really good job during her probationary period and then after she couldn't be fired, completely coast. Who the fuck thinks like that, let alone plans it out step by step.
It's a simple concept straight from a Macroeconomics textbook, 'cuse, and it applies to the aggregate for employment statistics. This country needs more private sector jobs and more people with jobs paying into the system.
And roooooomie, I am not saying that tax reform alone would fix anything (and personally, I am opposed to income taxes across the board). I'm not saying make the rich pay for it all either. I am saying that spending in the aggregate by government needs to be be drastically reduced and the number of people dependent upon government needs to be reduced as well. And if we are going to stick with an income tax system, it needs to be reformed.
More people than you think, 'cuse...
Yup. They say they can suffer for a year as a GS7, but every year after that for the next 5 they get at least a 10k bump and can't be fired.
Shit I get a 10k bump for the three more years? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit I didn't realize that
"Maryland football: Where everybody gets hurt and the starting left tackle has an existential crisis."
Life Coach bringin' it hard to the mic, baby!
Man you people have no idea what you are talking about. $10k per year for a GS7 or GS9??
Disclosure - Fed worker here - research engineer - our division has about 100 feds and employs another 50 contractors. If I could, I'd seriously fire only about 5 of the feds, and maybe 1 or 2 of the contractors. But again, this is an R&D facility employing engineers, physicists and CS types, and not a shitshow like GSA. We hire only contractors, try them out, and eventually convert to gov't after they have proven themselves. We stopped hiring direct to gov't 10 years back because you can't get rid of them. Common sense. The 5 I would fire are all older employees who were never any good - they aren't going anywhere obviously. It is absurd.
Oh, but yes I'd fire ALL the HR, Admin, and Purchasing people and start over. Total burn bags.
The last part is absolute nonsense unless they're getting promoted every year, which would presumably mean they were the exact opposite of coasting. That would essentially mean they went from a GS7 to GS9 to GS11 to GS12 to GS13, which would have them near 100,000 a year. Almost no chance in hell of that happening in 5 years unless they're the exact opposite of coasting and lazy.
"And I try to har-mo-nize with songs the lonesome sparrow sings...
There are no kings inside the Gates of Eden."
this plan has no chance, but it makes perfect sense.
pretty well thought out, in my dumb ass opinion (which of course means nothing).
count me in.
Slight exaggeration, but I have one friend who went in as a 7 and was bragging about getting promoted to a 12 in no time with huge pay raises each step up.
Wait, what are the raises like in the govt? The GS scale says a GS7 Step 1 to a GS9 Step 1 is 9.5k.
This post was edited by lazy 20 months ago
I believe your story, but think that anecdote is rare. I could be wrong, but I would certainly want to see data about the average promotion time from a 7 or 9 to 12.
I may have worded it wrong. He is bragging about how he WILL get promoted to a 12 in no time. I know he did get to an 11 fairly quickly.
Re: SS means testing. This also applies to extending the payroll tax. Right now, the "contract" is that for every dollar you pay into SS, you get a fixed benefit at retirement. SS was never meant as a wealth redistribution mechanism. These two things (means testing and extending the tax, presumably without increasing the benefit) turn it into one. Is that what you're proposing? Because every time these ideas are proposed, the word "redistribution" is never mentioned. I just want everyone to be honest when they propose doing this.
Edit - In addition, means testing SS most definitely discourages people saving for retirement. Yet another unintended consequence.
This post was edited by wcterp 20 months ago
Ignorant is not always an insult and it was not my intention to insult you. I am ignorant about a great many things, like how to knit a sweater for example. I have no idea how to do that. I am ignorant about sweater knitting. I am simply suggesting you spend some time learning more about these topics. I think you will find that it will benefit you in many ways, including your own personal financial decisions.
Based on your posts it's clear to me that you have a significant knowledge gap in finance, economics and the capital markets. As much as you want to make this into a politics thing, a "my team" versus "their team" thing, it's not. Anyone on either end of the politically spectrum can dispassionately look at our economy, the global economy and our government spending and see we have some really big problems, and they are getting worse. Reasonable people can argue different approaches to solve those problems, but to suggest there are none, as you did, is ignorant.
If you want to be willfully ignorant on what I consider a critically important topic for our country and our citizens, that's certainly your prerogative. Just don't expect to be taken seriously in threads like this, because your lack of understanding is transparent.
I am bit skeptical of Government R&D. How are your results judged? I come from the private sector. I know the Bell Labs of the private sector are long gone (yes I know Ken Thompson).
You're the insane one. (Our defense budget is much higher than even this today)
Based on your post, I conclude you are a patronizing asshole.
Two can play that game.
you don't have a freaking clue about Europe
Name calling? Are you 12?
Rather than insult sdog, why don't u enlighten us?
I'd bet a hell of a lot of money that China's budget, off-books at least, is higher than what's listed.
But the overall point still stands.
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